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Old 06-23-2008, 04:00 PM
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Should I play KK strong pre flop?

Should I call all in bet from someone who come over top of my raise with KK. It happened both time tonight where someone come over the top of my reraise ad both time they show me AA.
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Thanks for response, $$$. Just trying to figure out if I call all in reraise with KK, will it be a winning proposition in the long run. Any good website to talk about poker hands?
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Old 06-23-2008, 07:16 PM
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Should I call all in bet from someone who come over top of my raise with KK. It happened both time tonight where someone come over the top of my reraise ad both time they show me AA.

for me it depends on the time in the tournament and your chip stack...i used to just go all in, but now i will just flat call if someone does that because most likely they have at least 1 ace...if they have ak most likely they will go all in too and if an ace hits then you get ****ed and are out..but if no ace hits then you can go from there...could have qq and you get it anyway with under cards and if you put him on aces then you get off the hand...but then you have the jackoffs who go over the top with aj or aq and hit nothing nad still continue the hand and you hit a set on the turn and they hit the other runner for a straight and still get fuked
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with KK in this situation, law of averages probably say you will face QQ JJ AK etc more in this situation than you will AA. you always remember the times you lose though lol.




that's why people stress bankroll management, so you can play long enough to withstand the variance of going up against aces or losing as a big favorite
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Old 06-23-2008, 07:35 PM
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depends on if its tourny or cash....in a cash game its a snap call...if its a tourny there are a lot of variables that you have to consider but if you are folding it more than one out of 10 times it would be too much...I folded KK about 5 years ago in a big tourny cause it was one away from money and i had a good read on opponent...he subsequently showed me AA and i went on to win 8k for 1st place....but under most circumstances its a call...especially if its low limit
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The only way I'm laying them down is when I'm playing a satellite and I've all but guaranteed myself a seat or if you have a GOOD read he's got bullets. Don't ever just lay them down when close to the $ though,good players take advantage of this time.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:31 PM
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Thanks for all the great response. I only play cash game at Commerce. Trying to improve my game so I can start playing Tourny.
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In Texas Hold 'Em a hand is said to be dominated if another player has a similar, and better, hand.
No two sources seem to agree on an exact definition of when the two hole cards are dominated.
To add to the confusion, I will present yet another definition. A two-card hand is dominated if any of the following are true:
A pair is dominated if another player has a higher pair. Example: K,K is dominated by A,A.
Two singletons are dominated if another player has a pair equal or greater to the lower singleton. Examples Q,J is dominated by JJ; K,10 is dominated by A,A.
Two singletons are dominated if another player has one card matching in rank, and the other card is less than the other player's other card. Examples: J,9 is dominated by Q,9; Q,7 is dominated by Q,8.
That said, the following tables present the probability of every two-card hand being dominated, according to the total number of players.

Probability of Domination — Pairs
Cards 2 Players 3 Players 4 Players 5 Players 6 Players 7 Players 8 Players 9 Players 10 Players
2,2 0.05876 0.11412 0.16621 0.21501 0.26086 0.30428 0.34490 0.38343 0.41936
3,3 0.05385 0.10478 0.15293 0.19877 0.24160 0.28255 0.32120 0.35757 0.39216
4,4 0.04904 0.09553 0.14002 0.18212 0.22216 0.26018 0.29663 0.33085 0.3637
5,5 0.04409 0.08634 0.12661 0.16546 0.20200 0.23743 0.27104 0.30331 0.33423
6,6 0.03926 0.07694 0.11309 0.14813 0.18149 0.21375 0.24491 0.27453 0.30328
7,7 0.03426 0.06741 0.09951 0.1305 0.16038 0.18967 0.21749 0.24468 0.27105
8,8 0.02934 0.05795 0.08576 0.11288 0.13902 0.16466 0.18951 0.21366 0.23722
9,9 0.02456 0.04838 0.0719 0.09465 0.11712 0.13906 0.16046 0.18128 0.20169
10,10 0.01957 0.03883 0.05786 0.07642 0.09477 0.11269 0.13037 0.14764 0.16482
J,J 0.01468 0.02918 0.04357 0.05779 0.07194 0.08566 0.09927 0.11296 0.12629
Q,Q 0.00977 0.01957 0.02921 0.03876 0.04838 0.0579 0.06734 0.07676 0.08600
K,K 0.00487 0.00979 0.0147 0.01961 0.02443 0.02928 0.03421 0.03903 0.04402
A,A 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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depends on if its tourny or cash....in a cash game its a snap call...if its a tourny there are a lot of variables that you have to consider but if you are folding it more than one out of 10 times it would be too much...I folded KK about 5 years ago in a big tourny cause it was one away from money and i had a good read on opponent...he subsequently showed me AA and i went on to win 8k for 1st place....but under most circumstances its a call...especially if its low limit
ok elms. lol

but seriously, this is good advice. i may have folded kings preflop once in my life as well but no more than that.
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depends on the type of player that went over the top of you too...
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Old 06-26-2008, 01:00 PM
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depends on the type of player that went over the top of you too...
not really in a cash game. you cant lay down kings.
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