What The Pro's Dont Want You To Know (Part 1)

[Chicago RED]

I wanted Dr. Jack to do a poker forum for a while now, so I figure it is time to contribute to it. This will be Part 1 of a 3 Part series that I will write about What The Pro's Dont Want You To Know. This will be done for CappersMall only so I hope you guys enjoy.

Part 1: Table BankRoll Management

Article By: Chicago RED

Ok so we here alot of talk about BankRoll Management. There is very little talk about BankRoll Management at the poker table. Lets say you go to the casino and you sit down at a black jack table, you buy in for $300. What will your first wager be on your first hand? Well if you use good managment with your table money the min. of $5 should be about right. Maybe a $10-$20 wager if you feel lucky.

Now would anyone wager the full $300 buy in on one hand? Well if you have another 5k -7k in your pocket maybe. But with that $300 buy in I would say you have about 600-1k to back you up, so for the most part your first wager would not be $300.

Lets say you are now playing online poker, the game NLHE. You pick your table you take your seat and you buy-in. Lets say you buy in at a 1/2 NL table for $200. You post your BB and are delt KK.

Player 1 $300
Player 2 $175
Player 3 $59
Player 4 $700
SB: $220
BB: you $200

Player 1 bets $100
player 2 folds
player 3 folds
Player 4 Re-raises and makes it $300 all day
SB: Folds
BB: Action to you what do you do?

The pro's of calling:

1. You are on a short table & KK is a real strong hand, there is only one starting hand that can be better then yours right now and that is AA.

The Cons of Pushing all in and calling:

1. Its for your whole stack
2. You have no table read on any players.
3. Player 1 liked his hand alot, first to act with a strong bet= Strong Hand.
4. Player 1 more times then less will stay in the hand
5. Your Kings will face 2 players not one, that = KK now has less value.
6. If you call You for sure give player 1 more then enough pot odds to call.

I can go on with the cons, the correct move should be let the time bank run out and auto fold your hand. Why risk your whole buy-in on one hand. Why not wait for a better spot. The whole thing with poker is to grind it out, the goal is not to double up your whole stack in one hand. Now when that happens it is nice, but to double up on a single hand should never be your goal when you sit at a table.

Poker pro's for the most part never shove stacks only on one pair, why should you. There is no need to even risk 50% or 100% of your buy-in on a single hand. The exception to the rule is only when you have the Nuts. The Nuts Means you have seen 3-5 board cards and can not be beat no matter what the other people have at the table, or no matter what falls on the board.

I for one know that at the online poker table it can be real easy to go through stacks real fast and get stuck re-buying many times. Next time you sit at the table watch & value of every penny you put in the pot. The players that Value there buy-in & that protect there profit at the poker table will often find success. The Players that go for the big double up will often find themselves trying to repeat that everytime they play, they also lose more buy-in's in the long run.

Now what if you had AA in the same situation?? (re-read above & think about it.)

Tips of the Article:

1. Value your table by in buy picking your spots where you put the most chips in the pot.

2. Protect the profit you earn at the table by not going for the fast cash.

READER NOTE: In no way is this article trying to tell you how to play any hand. The goal of this article is to put you in the right mind set the next time you sit at the poker table. The second goal of the article is to get you to start thinking like a poker player at the table. GL

[Double Down]

Good read Chicago Red, thanks 4 posting

[dhunter]

i agree with what you're saying but i can't see laying down KK in that spot. imo it's an instacall.

[iggs111]

nice write up brother, hows the grind going?

[Chicago RED]

Originally Posted by iggs111

nice write up brother, hows the grind going?

Thanks, the grind is going good. Even thogh it is early in the summer grind I started adding in ring games to the mix, following the things I wrote above in the article. It is still a grind but the $ per 100 hands have been way better then I thought they can be. The small stakes games have been real soft. I will start posting some hands soon.

[makebank1024]

the whole point of bankroll management is to be playing within your limits. f you are buying into a 200nl table then i assume you are working with the correct BR management roll. br management is not about playing one stack in one session. Its about staying within your limits to overcome varience in the long run. In that situation, you should def be calling off with your KK since the odds you are against AA is slim. If you happen to be unlucky to be against it, then you rebuy if you lose...this is an autocall...on a side note....no one is betting UTG 50x the BB with AA so the scenario is just nonsense

[xxxFTWxxx]

wow worst advice ive ever seen

[Chicago RED]

Originally Posted by xxxFTWxxx

wow worst advice ive ever seen

Sorry you feel that way about the article. If you did read it the main point of the article was to get you to keep two things on your mind while at the table:


1. Value your table by in buy picking your spots where you put the most chips in the pot.

2. Protect the profit you earn at the table by not going for the fast cash.

Now any Ring game player going to the table with those two things on there mind can not hurt anything at all. So how was the advice Bad?

If you read the end of the article you would see the goal was to get the person who read the article to think about those two points at the poker table. The goal was not to tell anyone how to play any pocket pair. There are also more good points in the article about some diffrent ways to think at the table.

The only thing I can say is try re-reading it with a outside of the box approach & you may find some good info. If you still dont like it then, dont bother reading part 2 or 3 that are comming soon. They will be written in the same format & you Prob. wont get anything out of them.

[Seanie Mac]

this is just alot of stuff people already know but good luck on part 2

[revnecro1273]

Originally Posted by Seanie Mac

this is just alot of stuff people already know but good luck on part 2

knowing and utilizing are two different things...people may know these things but deep down they just don't realize them and implement them into your game...if you are such an all star why aren't you ever in any of the big events? don't have permission from the PO to leave new jersey and pennsylvania area?

[Chicago RED]

Originally Posted by revnecro1273

knowing and utilizing are two different things...people may know these things but deep down they just don't realize them and implement them into your game...if you are such an all star why aren't you ever in any of the big events? don't have permission from the PO to leave new jersey and pennsylvania area?

The Part of your post that I put in bold hits it right on the head.

[Chicago RED]

To wrap up on the first article:

Table BankRoll Management is something that you should think about and bring with you to the table everytime you sit down & play. I feel this is one of the major parts to being a success at the tables.