unfair trade?

[westcoastO]

half my league protested this trade. it didn't involve me, it was two other guys. is this as lopsided as i think it is?

team a gets: evan longoria, justin morneau
team b gets: joe mauer, neil walker, aubrey huff

[ZoomVT]

who is supposed to be getting the better deal here?

[westcoastO]

IMO it's weird that you are asking, but i'll wait to answer until i get a few more opinions.

[HotStreak]

Longoria/Morneau is the better end.

Mauer is an over rated fantasy player. Walker is off to a hot start with no history to ensure it continues, and Huff is Huff a #3/4 OF with 1B eligibility.

The tides of reality are what make this deal interesting. Longoria is currently on the DL and Morneau is one more bump on the head from retirement.

Taking the real life circumstances into account, this trade is not so lopsided as to warrant a veto.

[BLBisinnocent]

Looks good to me

[Burgh Brew Crew]

First glance would think it was lopsided they way Hots said. However, are the Rays going to put up numbers when Longo returns? If not, that puts a dramatic downspin on his numbers. Morneau never stays healthy all season, so unless you have a backup at 1B there is a risk taking him on.
Mauer living off that one super year and being a catcher in fantasy circles. Walker no history but good upside. Huff two position eligible and slightly above average. If Walker plays like he did second half of last season for a full season then this team gets the better end of the deal

[ZoomVT]

Originally Posted by westcoastO

IMO it's weird that you are asking, but i'll wait to answer until i get a few more opinions.

weird?
I guess I like to ride the hot hand on fantasy, there are always players to be swapped.

Longo is out until the end of the month, and when he comes back he could re-injure the oblique (which is very possible given that it is a hard injury to heal completely from), nevermind that they dont really have a lot of protection for him. So i dont know if his numbers would even come close to past production.

Morneau its iffy IMO. And he has not had a great start to the season.

Now both these guys could pan out and give you their average numbers, which would be very good. but no guarantees there.

on the other hand, you have Mauer. I dont know if he is overrated for a catcher, truth is that there are very few fantasy worthy players at the position. So this is most likely an instant upgrade.

I really like walker, he is unproven and he does play for a crap team, so he maybe an unknown. But right now he is leading his position on most categories.

Huff... well he is basically a throw in. I never rated huff very high but he is definitely a useful player. He wouldnt be in my starting lineup every day, but can fill in the utility position very well.

So to me, it is a very even trade. Which is why I ask. Where is the perceived advantage?

[dhunter]

I like the longoria side of it but it's nothing to protest over

[BLBisinnocent]

Originally Posted by ZoomVT

I really like walker, he is unproven and he does play for a crap team, so he maybe an unknown. But right now he is leading his position on most categories.

He may lead his position in a few catagories, but he also leads the National League in strikeouts....

edit: Went back and checked, he leads his position in exactly 0 categories.....except strikeouts, in which he leads the entire National League....

[Burgh Brew Crew]

That is not true BLB. He leads his position in RBI's and K's second in HR's and doubles 1 back in both for the National League.

[Quiksilver]

I think the Longoria side gets the better deal but I wouldn't veto it. Hotstreak is right...the fact that Longoria is hurt (and Morneau prob will be soon) is a big mitigating factor also.

[westcoastO]

well those who protested it were protesting it saying the longoria side was winning by far

i didnt veto it but i certainly dont sit back and say a guy will probably or maybe or could be injured at some time.

if players are healthy enough to play they are healthy enough to play and in a non contact game like baseball just as at-risk for most injuries as most other players, or close to it anyway

the trade went through, i just wanted to see if the rest of the guys were overreacting by wanting to veto the trade. IMO as long as you know for a fact there is no collusion (and i think you can know this if you've been in a league with the same guys you know long enough), and both managers agree to a trade, there shouldn't be any vetoing

thanks for all the input guys.

[ZoomVT]

Originally Posted by BLBisinnocent

He may lead his position in a few catagories, but he also leads the National League in strikeouts....

edit: Went back and checked, he leads his position in exactly 0 categories.....except strikeouts, in which he leads the entire National League....

his last 3 games pushed him down as he went 1/11 with 1 run. and even after that he is 3 runs short of the leader, 2 HR short ( doesnt say much, leader is at 4), 1 RBI behind (leader has 10). he doesnt steal bases and is hitting .275.
If you had asked me, 3 games ago which is the last i checked, he was leading in Runs, RBIs, AVG, and 1 behind HR.

Dont really care too much for strikeouts. other players may have low strikeout ratios but GIDP all the time, or hit ground and fly balls. it is still an out. I care more about production when he does get a hit. If he is hitting .300 i dont care how he gets an out the other 2.5 at bats.

regardless.

[ConstantColorUpor]

Talking the injury situations into consideration by no means is this lopsided.