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03-14-2008, 08:04 AM
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2 people charged in Pro line scam????
i was watching CP24 yesterday (thur Mar 13) and i read "2 brothers charged in a Pro Line scam" does anyone have info or a link on this? what they did?
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03-14-2008, 08:31 AM
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03-14-2008, 08:59 AM
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Does Grizz have a brother??? no wonder he's going back underground. losing weight my ass, he's counting all of his fradulent loot.
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03-14-2008, 09:03 AM
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lol
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03-14-2008, 02:42 PM
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What next ? You or your spouse gets charged because he/she is cashing your $3 winning bingo ticket,lmao.
I dont see anything wrong with what these guys did.If I had won a big winner and handed the ticket to my brother to cash for me,then whats the big deal ? He is after all family,right ? And the ticket was a winner,so why not just cash the thing and say it was yours.I am not sure who/what tipped the OLG off to not allow this to be paid out ? I think they have gone over board,big time.Why should people who win have to feel like they are some kind of criminal.This is not the only case,there are several others as well.The lady whose husband bought her a ticket and she won $10,000 , when she tried to claim it she couldnt remember what store the ticket was purchased from for she got it as a gift from her hubby.Now she to is under investigation.The OLG are a bunch of incompetant assholes. Last edited by FrankRizzo; 03-14-2008 at 02:43 PM.
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#6
03-14-2008, 02:45 PM
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How about laying charges against the OLG for defamation of charachter ? For making you feel like your some kind of criminal.
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#7
03-14-2008, 03:13 PM
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What I find most hilarious is the reason why the OLG is not paying out the ProLine win.Here we have 2 guys, who are brothers.One won on the ticket and was asked to cash it for the other guy.What fraud was involved when the brother gave his consent and let his brother take the ticket to cash it for him ? What crime did either of these guys commit ? The ticket is legit.Just because the guy forgot to tell them what store it was bought at,they refuse to pay ? I am sure theres something more to this story than what the brothers are letting on.I think that maybe they wanted it to go this way.In the end they should get thier money and if they dont the OLG are the ones who should be charged with fraud,for not paying out a winning ticket.Its not like it was some guy who asked a nieghbours friend to cash it for him.They are related for christ sakes.OLG should be smart enough to know what exactly what transpired and just give these guys thier coin.
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#8
03-14-2008, 03:18 PM
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Officer leaves OPP amid conflict questions at OLG
Last Updated: Thursday, March 15, 2007 | 5:40 PM ET CBC News The Ontario Provincial Police is reviewing the temporary assignment of a senior officer to the province's lottery corporation after a CBC investigation questioned whether the officer's role at the corporation could have affected a probe into retailer lottery fraud. Chief Supt. Michael Sharland, who has worked at the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corporation since 2004, announced late Wednesday his retirement from the OPP to stay on as the company's vice-president of security. His departure and the OPP's review come after an investigation by The Fifth Estate this week raised questions about why the OPP had one of its own inside the lottery corporation while the force was probing allegations of lottery fraud by an OLG ticket retailer. The OPP had been investigating the case of 82-year-old Bob Edmonds of Coboconk, Ont., who alleged he had his $250,000 lottery ticket stolen by a retail clerk. Felt stonewalled by lottery officials OPP Const. Al Lee was one of the investigators working on the Edmonds file. He told CBC he felt stonewalled by lottery officials when he showed up with a warrant and was only handed a small, edited file. "I wondered what was in that smaller file and what had been removed from the original file," Lee said. "There's certainly another file someplace that I have never seen or have I ever obtained." Concerned by the thin file, Lee drafted another warrant. He notified the lottery corporation of his intent to do another search and e-mailed Sharland, who was then working as the head of the lottery corporation's security. But shortly after that, Lee was transferred for unrelated reasons and his superiors decided not to pursue another search of lottery headquarters. Lee has been instructed not to talk to the media. The OPP is now examining Sharland's secondment to the lottery corporation to ensure there was no conflict of interest or perception of conflict of interest, said OPP Insp. Dave Ross. "There's a potential perception, obviously, that the seconded member could potentially have some influence over the outcome of the investigation," said Ross. "We don't have any evidence to support that at this time, but we want to make sure that the agreement is structured so certainly that wouldn't occur." The other four provincial lottery companies — which sell tickets in the Atlantic region, Quebec, Western Canada and B.C. — hire former police officers for security jobs, but none has run into the lottery corporation's problem, representatives said.
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03-14-2008, 05:15 PM
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I agree Fuk, I mean Frank. They should pay this ticket out. I often buy tickets at more than one place . I couldn't tell them exactly where I bought each ticket. Not for sure anyway. This is a very very loose case of fraud. I hope we hear that the loot was paid out. Whether the money goes for child support or not, the OLG should not win here.
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#10
03-14-2008, 06:57 PM
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This has gone right over my head, how is this in any way fraudulent?
Someone presents a winning ticket to collect a prize, the ticket is real and genuine, end of story, it entitles you to receive the the winnings. You present the ticket, they have to pay you. At least how it would work in a sane, normal world.
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#11
03-14-2008, 07:25 PM
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Meaning of Fraud :
1. deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage. 2. a person who makes deceitful pretenses 3. something intended to deceive; deliberate trickery intended to gain an advantage Did these 2 brothers do any of the above ? Was there trickery involved ? Did they cheat the system ? Did they operate under false pretenses ? How many more honest people will come forward to claim prizes ? Only to leave the OLG premises empty handed , with a "We'll call you after our investigation is over " which could take months and months.Easy , open and shut cases and people still have to wait to collect thier winnings  .
Last edited by FrankRizzo; 03-14-2008 at 07:26 PM.
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#12
03-14-2008, 07:50 PM
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We dont have enough information to judge.........the fraud is likely in relation to misrepresentation of facts to avoid paying child support. Likely the one brother is keeping the funds away from his kids (owed in child support) by purporting that the ticket belongs to the other brother.
I have zero sympathy for a dead beat that does not support his kids. This entire issue has nothing to do with the credibility of the OLG....we don't need more proof anyway...we know they are in the toilet.
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#13
03-14-2008, 07:55 PM
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the money should be sent direct to the guys kids, and he should be thrown in jail for bein a jagoff.
olg - loses deadbeat - loses kids - win = justice
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#14
03-14-2008, 08:01 PM
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What do lottery winnings have to do with child support? If you aren't keeping up with what the court mandated, that should be the only way they hold it back. But this guy seems to be saying it has been paid, and one would think he wouldn't be so stupid as to say that if he didn't have valid proof of that fact to show if challenged.
On a side note, you think the one brother would have been smart enough to tell the other where and when the ticket was bought.
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#15
03-14-2008, 08:50 PM
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 .The one brother claimed he was up to date with his child support payments.But what does that have to do with trying to cash a proline ticket ? If im behind in my telephone bill,car payment for example,will the OLG hold my winnings because im behind in my payments ? This is ridiculous guys.If it is true and he is behind in his support payments,that is none of the OLG's business.I have read all the rules from the OLG web site pretaining to cashing winning proline tickets,and there is not 1 piece of information that says that a man or woman will have to forfeit some of thier or all of thier winnings if they are behind in child support payments.
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