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Old 03-02-2006, 12:23 PM
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Baseball and Hockey tips for Pinnacle users

Pinnacle offers a -1 line on every baseball game (as well as -2 etc) with their drop down menu

If you like -1, you can get a better line by betting some on the ML and some -1.5. Pinnacle basically rips you off by about 3 cents on every -1 line. It just takes a little algebra, but it's well worth it. Here is an example.

Pinnacle
White Sox (-132)
White Sox -1.5 (+164)
White Sox -1 (+111)

Instead of betting 100% of your play to win 111 at -1, do this.
Bet 57% at -132 to win $43.11
Bet 43% at -1.5 (+164) to win $70.70.
If White Sox win by 1, you break even, just like the -1 line.
If they win by 2 or more, you win 113% instead of 111%
So, you get almost +114 instead of +111

You just have to know how much to bet on the ML, then bet all the would be profits from that on the -1.5 line. To figure out how much to bet on the ML, just do this.
Take 100/132=.7576
Add 1 = 1.7576
Take 100 and divide by 1.7576.
=56.90
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Old 03-02-2006, 12:26 PM
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Create your own -1 line in Pucks

Example

Islanders/Canadians game, you bet NY -121 to win $100, and NY -1.5 for +224.

Risk: 121 + 100 =221
Reward: 100+224=334
Push on NY winning by 1

Divide 334 by 221 will give you

New York -1 at +147.
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Old 03-02-2006, 12:28 PM
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Taking a team -1 instead of -1.5 will save you money in Hockey
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Old 03-02-2006, 12:54 PM
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Old 03-02-2006, 12:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanowski
Pinnacle offers a -1 line on every baseball game (as well as -2 etc) with their drop down menu

If you like -1, you can get a better line by betting some on the ML and some -1.5. Pinnacle basically rips you off by about 3 cents on every -1 line. It just takes a little algebra, but it's well worth it. Here is an example.

Pinnacle
White Sox (-132)
White Sox -1.5 (+164)
White Sox -1 (+111)

Instead of betting 100% of your play to win 111 at -1, do this.
Bet 57% at -132 to win $43.11
Bet 43% at -1.5 (+164) to win $70.70.
If White Sox win by 1, you break even, just like the -1 line.
If they win by 2 or more, you win 113% instead of 111%
So, you get almost +114 instead of +111

You just have to know how much to bet on the ML, then bet all the would be profits from that on the -1.5 line. To figure out how much to bet on the ML, just do this.
Take 100/132=.7576
Add 1 = 1.7576
Take 100 and divide by 1.7576.
=56.90
Are you saying that in order to make money using your method, the WSox would have to win by 2???

If so, the better play would be WSox -132 because if they win, you win.
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:01 PM
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its not a method Skippy, ill quote myself

If you like -1, you can get a better line by betting some on the ML and some -1.5. Pinnacle basically rips you off by about 3 cents on every -1 line. It just takes a little algebra, but it's well worth it. Here is an example.
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:01 PM
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:01 PM
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigWill
Value
Where's the value???

Using what he described above.....-1 gets you a PUSH.

ML gets you the win.
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HOOPS 1st to 100 units
Best Bets Record:
Dec.: 3-0-0 (W3)
Nov.: 2-2-0 (L1)
MLB Record (all 1 unit plays for $1):
April '06: 7-5-1 (+2.16)
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Days: 2 (1-1) >>> Units: +11
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:06 PM
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If you like -1, take the ML.
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Someone said: "Skippy, sports is NOT your niche"
Skippy says: "Fade me if you dare"

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Contest Wins:
SPORTS Cappers Mall Monthly POD
EQUINE BETJM Weekly Horse Racing Challenge
HOOPS BETJM Monthly Hoops Challenge (TWICE)
HOOPS Cappers Mall Monthly BBall (THRICE)
HOOPS 1st to 100 units
Best Bets Record:
Dec.: 3-0-0 (W3)
Nov.: 2-2-0 (L1)
MLB Record (all 1 unit plays for $1):
April '06: 7-5-1 (+2.16)
Double or Nothing record:
Risks: One unit per day
Days: 2 (1-1) >>> Units: +11
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:06 PM
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Skippy you are a gambling genius

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Old 03-02-2006, 01:10 PM
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I must be because my motto has always been "Don't be greedy"

If you like -1, why not take ML???

Why create an obstacle for yourself???
Sure -1 pays more but you have to win by 2.
Why set a trap for yourself to fall in to??
In this case, why set a trap for yourself NOT to win???

This is especially true is MLB because the home team doesn't always bat in the 9th.

Don't be blinded by GREED.
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Contest Wins:
SPORTS Cappers Mall Monthly POD
EQUINE BETJM Weekly Horse Racing Challenge
HOOPS BETJM Monthly Hoops Challenge (TWICE)
HOOPS Cappers Mall Monthly BBall (THRICE)
HOOPS 1st to 100 units
Best Bets Record:
Dec.: 3-0-0 (W3)
Nov.: 2-2-0 (L1)
MLB Record (all 1 unit plays for $1):
April '06: 7-5-1 (+2.16)
Double or Nothing record:
Risks: One unit per day
Days: 2 (1-1) >>> Units: +11
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:11 PM
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Skippy you play at MVP I thought, not pinny why would u even care?
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:12 PM
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Skippy I respect your opinion, but that what it is an opinion, get off your high horse, others will like this info

thank you
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigWill
Skippy you play at MVP I thought, not pinny why would u even care?
I care because this is misleading information for the rookies.
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Skippy says: "Fade me if you dare"

http://cappersmall.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=45

http://cappersmall.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=20 (new)

Contest Wins:
SPORTS Cappers Mall Monthly POD
EQUINE BETJM Weekly Horse Racing Challenge
HOOPS BETJM Monthly Hoops Challenge (TWICE)
HOOPS Cappers Mall Monthly BBall (THRICE)
HOOPS 1st to 100 units
Best Bets Record:
Dec.: 3-0-0 (W3)
Nov.: 2-2-0 (L1)
MLB Record (all 1 unit plays for $1):
April '06: 7-5-1 (+2.16)
Double or Nothing record:
Risks: One unit per day
Days: 2 (1-1) >>> Units: +11
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