Clean or Dirty – You make the call

[Dr. Jack]

Clean or Dirty – You make the call

There are so many people either being accused of gambling, steroids and whatever especially over the last few years.

Let’s play clean or dirty.

Clean – Innocent or Juice Free
Dirty – Guilty or Juiced

Give your thoughts!


Wayne Gretzky
Rafael Palmeiro
Lance Armstrong
Mark McGwire
Barry Bonds
Sammy Sosa
Pudge Rodriguez
Mike Piazza
Gary Sheffield
Marion Jones

[jonnyblaze]

All on that list got problems for sure, except maybe Piazza.

"If your not cheating, your not trying." -Rome

[actionsportscentral]

Wayne Gretzky - clean
Rafael Palmeiro - dirty
Lance Armstrong - clean
Mark McGwire - dirty dirty dirty
Barry Bonds - dirty - but only mildly
Sammy Sosa - dirty
Pudge Rodriguez - not sure
Mike Piazza - not sure
Gary Sheffield - dirty and a prick too
Marion Jones - dirty

[Henry09]

I think they are all dirty except for maybe gretzky

[Jahred]

Originally Posted by henry09

I think they are all dirty except for maybe gretzky

agree

[hgldls]

gretzky is only cdn on that list?

[Klazerman]

Wayne Gretzky - very clean
Rafael Palmeiro - lied to congress- dirty
Lance Armstrong - not sure on him- leaning to clean
Mark McGwire - dirty
Barry Bonds - pumped up- steroided out- dirty as they come
Sammy Sosa - caught corking and probably roiding as well
Pudge Rodriguez - clean I think
Mike Piazza - dirty
Gary Sheffield - dirty
Marion Jones - really dirty- lots of circumstantial evidence to back
up this one.
IMO

[Yankee23]

If you look at the list they are all dirty in my opinion one way or another with the exception of Lance. Until recently the "Great one" would have been clean but there is no way that he wasn't involved with his wife's gambling IMO, but that is a different kind of dirty, not one of physical gain. Everyone else's body has brokedown because of the use of steroids. All of the players listed have been on the DL since the whole steroid issue came to light and Marion Jones is as dirty as they come. Lance on the other hand has never been busted for doping and continues to perform like no other, which in my eyes makes him clean. If he can pass the Olympic antidoping than he's AOK in my book.

[Jimmy K]

Wayne Gretzky - Clean
Rafael Palmeiro - Dirty
Lance Armstrong - Clean
Mark McGwire - Dirty
Barry Bonds - Dirty
Sammy Sosa - Dirty
Pudge Rodriguez - Dirty
Mike Piazza - Clean
Gary Sheffield - Dirty
Marion Jones - don't know

[rmaciasl]

all dirty except for wayne

[CorkJuice]

i know a few MLB players and a few more in the minors looking to make the leap,

before the new rules, 80% of the leagues players were using what is now illegal substance, that number is down to about 40% now,, these are rough estimates league wide, but factual counts from a couple teams,

the league busted mcguire for one reason, to later accuse and tarnish bonds' threat of the homerun record, i feel sorry for bonds because,, he was just connected with people who were smarter and more efficeint, but i would not say dirty because the WHOLE league was doing whatever it took to gain advantage, the league allowed this and actually quietly promoted it, and now is using a figure that is easy for the public to dislike (bonds) to place the burden,,

so all MLB players: clean
MLB: dirty

lance armstrong, have no idea,

Wayne Gretzky, dirty, obvious ring leader in betting scandal, soooo obvious, even on PTI they stated how blatant this is, of course the NHL which is pretty much hanging by a thread as it is, of course they are not going to put their most beloved figure on trail, they'll just put it on the assistant coach and his wife, lmao,, and of course they know people will believe anything the media tells them to believe,, lmfao,, most would rather listen and follow, than use thier own common sense or rational,, Gretzky was a key player here, but the sports media will continue presenting it the way they want to,

[dollarbills]

you shouldn't make this list without knowing the facts...........and, none of us actually know the facts.......we prob never will.........court of public opinion is shit..........

[dollarbills]

Originally Posted by actionsportscentral

Wayne Gretzky - clean
Rafael Palmeiro - dirty
Lance Armstrong - clean
Mark McGwire - dirty dirty dirty
Barry Bonds - dirty - but only mildly
Sammy Sosa - dirty
Pudge Rodriguez - not sure
Mike Piazza - not sure
Gary Sheffield - dirty and a prick too
Marion Jones - dirty

you don't know about any of these athletes.......this is why the court of public opinion is BS......mcgwire (dirty), you don't know......you shouldn't accuse......but that's what you're doing anyway, how could you not have bonds at the top.......take a 1987 card and compare it with a 2004 card.......

[Yankee23]

Originally Posted by dollarbills

you shouldn't make this list without knowing the facts...........and, none of us actually know the facts.......we prob never will.........court of public opinion is shit..........

It's a debate in a forum not a court of law but thanks for your input.

[Da Fanatic]

All dirty. Anyone who thinks otherwise just isnt paying attention.