Global Warming

[Trossi3389]

SANTA ANA, Calif. (Dec. 5) - A massive storm pounding the West Coast with heavy rain and hurricane-force wind is expected to drop a thick blanket of snow on the Sierra Nevada today and keep thousands of people in Southern California away from their homes.

Flights were grounded and a major highway was closed as gusts reached 80 mph Friday during the second wave of an arctic storm that sent trees crashing onto houses, cars and roads and cut power from the San Francisco Bay Area to the Central Valley.

Residents in Orange County canyons that were scorched by wildfires last fall, making them susceptible to mudslides, nervously watched weather reports to learn when the winds and showers would give way to the fierce gusts and heavy downpours forecast for the area.

"The rains haven't been too intense over it yet, but it's going to be a stormy night," Ted MacKechnie, a National Weather Service forecaster, said early Saturday.

About 3,000 residents in Williams, Harding, Modjeska and Silverado canyons were told to leave their homes by 7 p.m. Friday, Orange County fire Capt. Mike Blawn said. Deputies drove through the canyons with bullhorns announcing the order as darkness fell.

"We don't take these evacuation orders lightly. We do everything we can to make sure they're necessary," Blawn said. "The thing with debris flows, mudslides and flash floods is that you can't see them coming."

A voluntary evacuation was in effect at an apartment complex northwest of downtown Los Angeles because of flooding and a small mudslide.

Flash flood warnings were issued late Friday for most of Los Angeles County and all of southeastern Santa Barbara and Ventura counties. Riverside and San Bernardino counties deployed swift-water rescue teams in case torrential rains brought flash floods and mudslides.

Homeowners in Southern California stacked sandbags and hay bales around their homes while residents in the low-lying areas of the Central Valley piled sandbags to barricade their homes from streams and creeks that forecasters warned might swell.

The state opened its emergency operations center Friday morning to coordinate storm response, and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said he had spoken with Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff by phone.

The National Guard said it had personnel on standby, and the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection dispatched inmate crews in Northern California's Butte, Glenn and Placer counties to clear debris from roadways, spokesman Daniel Berlant said.

The agency also deployed swift-water rescue teams in Butte, Placer and Riverside counties to handle torrential rains that might bring flash floods and mudslides.

In the Sierra National Forest, a frantic daylong search for three missing members of a Clovis family ended just after nightfall when rescuers found them in good condition with three other hikers who had apparently gotten trapped in the woods after the storm hit.

Forecasters expected the storm to dump as much as 10 feet of snow in the Sierra Nevada, where a blizzard warning was downgraded Friday evening to a winter storm warning.

Lake Tahoe was forecast to get between 1 to 2 feet of snow, and the Sierra foothills could get some light accumulation when a third, colder storm moves into the region Saturday.

"It's going to be a mess for travelers," said Chris Smallcomb, a weather service meteorologist. "We expect the road conditions will be hazardous if not impossible."

Friday evening, the California Department of Transportation closed Interstate 80 across the Sierra, the main east-west link between Northern California and Nevada.

The Red Cross set up a 200-bed shelter in Truckee for stranded motorists, as well as a shelter in Butte County.

Air travelers saw their flight plans put on hold when airlines delayed or canceled flights in Sacramento and the San Francisco Bay Area.

About 600,000 people from the Bay Area to the Central Valley were in the dark early Saturday, down from about 1.5 million the day before. Crews worked to restore power, but it could be days before all the lights are on, Pacific Gas & Electric officials said.

Howling winds, pelting rain and heavy snow took its heaviest toll Friday on Northern California, where trucks flipped on interstates.

The huge storm also toppled trees and cut power to thousands of residents in Washington and Oregon.

"A huge tree, over 100 years old, just fell across the house. It just wrecked the whole thing," said Faye Reed, whose daughter Teenia owns the damaged home north of Sacramento. "They won't be able to live in it. The whole ceiling fell in, and now it's raining inside."

[Trossi3389]

[TCD619]

Crazy stuff. And ppl just look over it and think its nonsense.

Supposed to be in the 60's in East on monday/tuesday. Its WINTER time

[pwherr]

60's here.I like it.

[uva3021]

Originally Posted by tdiddy619

Crazy stuff. And ppl just look over it and think its nonsense.

Supposed to be in the 60's in East on monday/tuesday. Its WINTER time

cycle

volcanic eruptions on venus have a huge effect on weather here on earth, and venus also goes through cycles

[Jimmy K]

Originally Posted by uva3021

cycle

volcanic eruptions on venus have a huge effect on weather here on earth, and venus also goes through cycles

people fail to realize the impact that the solar system has on our temps, the sun has gotten hotter, there are more solar flares right now, the entire system is heating right now and in a few years it'll probably cool back down a bit.

[Ron Mexico]

We had 100mph + winds in the hills by my house.

3.5 inches of rain in under 24 hrs

Tahoe getting POUNDED!!!

[Romanowski]

I agree that global warming is nothing more than solar warming

however we need to get off oil for other reasons including not feeding a muslim population boom throughout the world

[MightyMike]

Just being bored before the Playoffs starts .Just thought i would post some Stuff i found .
Take it for what it is worth .


http://ggweather.com/sf/snow.html

http://www.micmacmedia.com/Sierra_St...nowstorms.html



SAN FRANCISCO
Snowfall*



Chronological Summary #

Year Day Amount Remarks

1856 Dec 25 2.5"
1868 Jan 12 2.0"
1882 Dec 31 3.5" Snow fell from 11:30am to 4:20pm.
1884 Feb 7 1.5" Snow fell off and on during the day. Depths from 1 to 2".
1887 Feb 5 3.7" Snow fell during the day. Up to 7" of Twin Peaks.
1888 Jan 16 0.1"
1896 Mar 3 1.0" Fell as brief heavy snow at night.
1932 Dec 11 0.8"
1952 Jan 15 0.3"
1962 Jan 21 Unofficial 3" in Sunset and Westlake Districts
1976 Feb 5 1.0" Up to 5" at top of Twin Peaks.

* Official snowfall observations were taken by the Weather Bureau from 1890 through 1964. Other dates have been complied from a variety of sources believed reliable by the author.

# Trace amounts have been reported on other dates, however many of these were not true snow occurrences but rather small hail, associated with wintertime convective showers.

[Big Pimpin]

rain,wind and snow....cry me a river

[iggs111]

lol, its gonna be 55 here tomorrow.....were gonna die soon...

[cman]

The sun is just hotter...anyother argument is just a reason to have a fundraiser for the liberal tax and spending alarmist...most people call it a tax


wde

[Wellahiya]

'Sun is getting hotter and that's teh reason for global warming' -

tell me you were joking...
tell me you aint such an idiot...

[TN TITAN Fan In STL]

A new solar cycle is under way.

The US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) said that the first sunspot of a new 11-year cycle has appeared in the sun's northern hemisphere.

The frequency of sunspots rises and falls during these cycles, and the start of a new cycle indicates they are likely to begin increasing.

Sunspots, areas of intense magnetic activity on the sun, can affect Earth by disrupting electrical grids, airline and military communications, satellite signals and even cell phones, the agency said.

During periods of intense sunspot activity, known as solar storms, highly charged radiation from the sun may head toward Earth.

"Our growing dependence on highly sophisticated, space-based technologies means we are far more vulnerable to space weather today than in the past," said NOAA Administrator Conrad C Lautenbacher, Jr.

Last April, an international panel of solar experts forecast that Solar Cycle 24 would start in March 2008, plus or minus six months. The panel was split between those predicting a strong or weak cycle.

[Romanowski]

Originally Posted by eekchac

'Sun is getting hotter and that's teh reason for global warming' -

tell me you were joking...
tell me you aint such an idiot...

your the moron who believes everything you read yet doesn't investigate it further

euro clown, maybe you should keep your mouth shut more and listen more often. You may learn something

every planet in the solar system is experiencing the same temp increase of 2% we have over the last 2 yrs



ill repeat what I said earlier however we need to get off of oil for other reasons