help for a debate at school

[Kingaling]

Well we are all gamblersand Im coming to any of you who can offer advice... I am in a debate and I am on the pro side for legalizing gambling. I am doing Ohio in particular, bc we dont have it and Im trying to convince my audience it would be a benefit to have legalized gambling here... Any of you know good sources or anyone have any good points... I need come backs because I know the con side is gonna hammer me with all the addicted gamblers and the lives its ruined. So any help would be awesome...


Thanks in advance..

[pats3peat]

"it's our own money. government can F off. has more imporant things to worry about like guns"

[Luckyluciano]

Ohio has a state lottery, many of its profits go to support education. Legalize casino/sportsbooks in Ohio and create the same type of support for education and other charitable institutions in the state. By the way isnt the lottery gambling!!!

[uva3021]

Originally Posted by Luckyluciano

Ohio has a state lottery, many of its profits go to support education. Legalize casino/sportsbooks in Ohio and create the same type of support for education and other charitable institutions in the state. By the way isnt the lottery gambling!!!

I had the same thoughts Lucky

Billions of dollars more would go to the state. If you legalize gambling, there would be no illegal bookmaking and guys named Vinnie the chin and Sal the knife wouldn't be takin your bets.

During prohibition, people died, and were brewin out of their bathtub, finally we got smart and moved passed prohibition.

There are three things in the world that people will do no matter what: Sex, Booze, and Gambling.

[PigSkinTerror13]

Originally Posted by pats3peat

"it's our own money. government can F off. has more imporant things to worry about like guns"

guns?? what the f#ck is the big deal with guns

[Big Pimpin]

Money to your state coffers and not to your neighboring state

[TigerCat_Tania]

http://encarta.msn.com/text_761560772___7/Gambling.html

http://www.moondance.org/1997/summer...s/gambling.htm

http://www.jolt.unc.edu/vol2/thompsonweb.htm

http://www.americangaming.org/Press/...ail.cfv?ID=225

http://www.extension.umn.edu/distrib...nt/DA6291.html

Most important PRO is Participation is not mandatory!!!

[cman]

the main thing is to concentrate on the conservative view points....and be prepared to argue issues not facts.

When they fire back at you with the morality view points dont get caught up arguing the ethics crap..it is hipocritical

Ask them if they consider it a conservative view point or not...they will respond conservative

Question them on government overreach..we have laws on the books concerning this and this is obvously a states rights issue...(a true conservative view point values a smaller gov intrusion then laws wanting more)

They will counter with snide remarks concerning Bush and wiretapping and then you have them....tell them to stick to the topic


wde

[Henry09]

The laws are not stopping most people that want to gamble in the first place. People are betting online and offshore.

So all the money (100's of millions) is going offshore and not back into the American Economy.

If it was legalised then Bookmakers would open up in the states and that would create 2 things that would help out the US economy.

1) It would create more jobs

2) The Government would tax the bookies. Therefore more money goes back into Government spending etc. which (as a hook you could argue) could be used for schooling, parks and wildlife etc.

You could use other Countries as examples of this e.g Australia who's government is making millions by taxing Australian bookies each year which increases the years budget spending and therefore boosts the economy.

[skippy]

Originally Posted by Kingaling

Well we are all gamblersand Im coming to any of you who can offer advice... I am in a debate and I am on the pro side for legalizing gambling. I am doing Ohio in particular, bc we dont have it and Im trying to convince my audience it would be a benefit to have legalized gambling here... Any of you know good sources or anyone have any good points... I need come backs because I know the con side is gonna hammer me with all the addicted gamblers and the lives its ruined. So any help would be awesome...


Thanks in advance..

Pose the following question to your "CON" opponents.
Have you ever bought a lottery ticket??
Does your mother, grandmother, aunt ever played BINGO??

Those are forms of gambling.
It doesn't have to have all the glamor of Vegas with all the flashing lights, bells and whistles, etc etc.

They will say its a morality issue.
Many people will be hurt by gambling.
This is true.
There have been many cases of drinking and driving causing death.
Yet, alcohol is still being sold.
Its a fact that smoking causes cancer, and thus becomes a burden on the health care system.
Yet, smoking is not outlawed.

Bottom line is.....If people (adults) want to do something, they will do it. You can't stop them. Therefore, why not regulate it??

[skippy]

Originally Posted by skippy

Pose the following question to your "CON" opponents.
Have you ever bought a lottery ticket??
Does your mother, grandmother, aunt ever played BINGO??

Those are forms of gambling.
It doesn't have to have all the glamor of Vegas with all the flashing lights, bells and whistles, etc etc.

They will say its a morality issue.
Many people will be hurt by gambling.
This is true.
There have been many cases of drinking and driving causing death.
Yet, alcohol is still being sold.
Its a fact that smoking causes cancer, and thus becomes a burden on the health care system.
Yet, smoking is not outlawed.

Bottom line is.....If people (adults) want to do something, they will do it. You can't stop them. Therefore, why not regulate it??

Prostitution is another example.
Families have been broken up after the man has been caught soliciting the services of a prostitute.
The state can never stamp out prostitution.
If someone is looking for it, they will find it.

Bottom line is.....the conservative are against everything that the liberals find pleasure in.
If the conservatives are against this, that is fine, that is their position.
But why should they impose their will on others that are more liberal???

[cman]

If I was formulating this debate I would concede some areas up front. It will take the sails right out of them.

My opening statement would start something like this...

If this debate is going to be centered around Judeo-Christian ethics we can all go home. We concede...We concede. We are all aware of the story of Jesus turning over the table in the temple because the patrons were "casting their lots".

However, if we are going under the spirit of separation of church and state..then we have some ideas...things such as personal freedom and determination, limits on government intrusion, taxation and revenues. Do you really think you can stop the office pools, squares, and local poker games. Not to mention the pure hipocrisy of school raffles.

Just some early thoughts

wde