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Old 04-23-2009, 10:02 AM
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HS player heading overseas

jeremy tyler, who will be a senior next year, will not finish high school, instead he is going to play in europe.

1st jennings doesnt go to college, now kids not even finishing high school. who will be the 1st person to not even attend high school and go straight overseas out of 8th grade.

i didnt like the 1 year of college rule, and it will prob be 2 years soon, but thats the prob. economy is bad and alot of these prep studs are below the poverty line.

i liked high schoolers going straight to the league.
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:16 AM
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High Schoolers going straight to the NBA almost ruined the NBA. With the current rule, the draft classes have been so much better. I'm sure these fews special kids could "stay above the poverty line" long enough to get a free college ride and make millions a year later.

Plus, what owner wants to sink that type of cash into an unknown 18 year old? For every LeBron there is a Tyson Chandler or Eddie Curry. For every Carmel Anthony there is a Kwame Brown or Darius Miles.
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:27 AM
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well melo went to college but that doesnt matter. miles was drafted by the clippers, they havent had a good rookie in their existence, development is their problem.

tyson chandler is actually a good nba center man. curry was becoming releveant and d'antoni benched him because he doesnt fit into their system

kwame was never a good pick, jordan reached on that and he admitted it, he wanted to make kwame good.

look at last years draft, rose, mayo, gordan, love, beasley, all would have gone straight from high school.

samething with durant and oden. college actually hurt oden IMO.

it seems to the naked eye that most high schoolers were busts, but its not true. look at the oympic team, kobe, lebron, howard.....3 starters.

when players bust IMO, its more the coaching and develpoments fault more then the player. a player doesnt change.
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:31 AM
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well melo went to college but that doesnt matter. miles was drafted by the clippers, they havent had a good rookie in their existence, development is their problem.

tyson chandler is actually a good nba center man. curry was becoming releveant and d'antoni benched him because he doesnt fit into their system

kwame was never a good pick, jordan reached on that and he admitted it, he wanted to make kwame good.

look at last years draft, rose, mayo, gordan, love, beasley, all would have gone straight from high school.

samething with durant and oden. college actually hurt oden IMO.

it seems to the naked eye that most high schoolers were busts, but its not true. look at the oympic team, kobe, lebron, howard.....3 starters.

when players bust IMO, its more the coaching and develpoments fault more then the player. a player doesnt change.
I just think that the rule brings in better talent. Too many kids were going to straight from high school who were not where near ready.

PS. Tyson Chandler blows. Catching alley-oops does not justify being drafted #2 overall.
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:33 AM
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High Schoolers going straight to the NBA almost ruined the NBA. With the current rule, the draft classes have been so much better. I'm sure these fews special kids could "stay above the poverty line" long enough to get a free college ride and make millions a year later.

Plus, what owner wants to sink that type of cash into an unknown 18 year old? For every LeBron there is a Tyson Chandler or Eddie Curry. For every Carmel Anthony there is a Kwame Brown or Darius Miles.
this sounds like you are favoring the owners over the 18 yr old kids

the owners are millionaires, the kids are often below the poverty line and in a stranglehold of possible financial security because of greed and elitism

its not like its ruined the kids, kwame brown and darius miles are swimming in cash, so is telfair, martel webster, gerald green, etc...

tyson chandler pretty decent, he's not a complete bust
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this guy is a moron. if it was about the money its dumb because he's not even gonna be making that much. this was about not wanting to waste another year in hs...which is also dumb
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the rule was implemented by the ncaa and nba in part because the college basketball ratings and sponsorship revenue were taking a nose dive because the product wasn't that good, now the product is better at the expense of the kids
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:36 AM
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History of High School kids drafted:

Kevin Garnett
Kobe Bryant
Jermaine O'Neal
Tracy McGrady
Al Harrington
Rashard Lewis
Darius Miles
Lebron James
Dwight Howard
Amare Stoudemire
Shaun Livingston
Tyson Chandler
Eddie Curry
Andrew Bynum
Martell Webster
Monta Ellis
Gerald Green
CJ Miles
Louis Williams
Ricky Sanchez
Amir Johnson

A LOT of these players could have used a year or two of college to season their game. Look at how high school players affected the Bulls. They had a ton of money tied up in Tyson Chandler and Eddie Curry, and neither of those guys should make more than the league minimum.
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:37 AM
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kids being forced to go to college is not a bad thing...i would prefer that they adopt a rule like the nfl. everyone benefits
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:39 AM
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this sounds like you are favoring the owners over the 18 yr old kids

the owners are millionaires, the kids are often below the poverty line and in a stranglehold of possible financial security because of greed and elitism

its not like its ruined the kids, kwame brown and darius miles are swimming in cash, so is telfair, martel webster, gerald green, etc...

tyson chandler pretty decent, he's not a complete bust
Come on. You can't tell me the NBA didn't have a five year shit period because of horrible draft classes.

And I'm not favoring the owners. It hurts a team to have money and time tied up in a player who takes extra years to develop. The one year of college rule is a great thing.
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i say adopt a rule like mlb, so you can differentiate the kids that want to go to college from the kids that don't want to

i doubt some of the players that haven't translated well to the nba are strugglin to make ends meet

they are crying themselves to sleep in their 10,000 square foot house
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when i first saw this story i was against it..mainly because dropping out of school and not even getting a high school diploma is stupid..but then i saw he was going to correspondence or ged work to get his diploma, then i had no problem with it....he is going to play basketball anyway, why not get paid for it and get to experience a different lifestyle living in another country..the usa college system is pretty much exploitive anyway..unis making tons of cash off people playing for free..yeah they get room and board and a chance at a degree..but big deal when it comes down to it..that is kind of like a businesses hiring illegals because they can pay them cheap and make a shit load of dough off of it..so i think it is fine what he is doing..he is still getting his diploma..just getting it in another setting..nobody ever raises a brow when tennis kids do it and kid actors filming when they should be in school
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:42 AM
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Come on. You can't tell me the NBA didn't have a five year shit period because of horrible draft classes.

And I'm not favoring the owners. It hurts a team to have money and time tied up in a player who takes extra years to develop. The one year of college rule is a great thing.
its a terrible rule, what good does one year do for anybody, its not good for the school, the kid, and the whole thing is just shady

unlike ncaa and the nfl which have a tacit agreement that kids just aren't physically ready after 3 years out of high school, the nba and ncaa appears to have a uncomfortable and comtemptuous relationship
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:42 AM
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no, nba needs to go to a 3 year rule like football. it improves both the college game and the nba. plus a lot of these morons need to have some kind of an attempt at education
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:43 AM
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History of High School kids drafted:

Kevin Garnett
Kobe Bryant
Jermaine O'Neal
Tracy McGrady
Al Harrington
Rashard Lewis
Darius Miles
Lebron James
Dwight Howard
Amare Stoudemire
Shaun Livingston
Tyson Chandler
Eddie Curry
Andrew Bynum
Martell Webster
Monta Ellis
Gerald Green
CJ Miles
Louis Williams
Ricky Sanchez
Amir Johnson

A LOT of these players could have used a year or two of college to season their game. Look at how high school players affected the Bulls. They had a ton of money tied up in Tyson Chandler and Eddie Curry, and neither of those guys should make more than the league minimum.
i agree with that...but what is the difference between playing in college or playing in europe before heading into the nba?
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