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Old 03-02-2008, 01:11 PM
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Question Journalists Responsibility and Credibility - Yahoo vs. ESPN

Journalists Responsibility and Credibility - Yahoo vs. ESPN

There is so much media attention to everything now but does credibility mean anything?

If you haven’t followed you have Yahoo reporting Jason Taylor will be traded.

You have Mort from ESPN (really Parcells told him this) basically calling Yahoo or whomever started the story a liar?

How much credibility do you put in to an article when you read it? Is there even a difference anymore between an article with facts and the website “rumor mill”.

What are your thoughts?

As a reference – here is a link to both articles

Yahoo (Jason Cole) - http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns
ESPN –(Mort) http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3273442
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remember when mort reported that eli had a separated shoulder early in the season and then he played the next week. then some yahoo tard comes out with an article saying chargers players were talking shit about norv but claimed the players wanted to be anonymous and refused to name any sources. they're both shady but mort has been doing it longer so i'll go with him. John clayton the best tho imo
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I agree about John Clayton being very credible

Jason Cole used to be a reporter down here. I just hate these things because they just are taking good guesses and running with them as fact. I guess if he is traded he will have his credibility but if he isn't how can anyone believe anything the guy writes?
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Well there is a difference in a blogger versus a journalist. A blogger should not post a lie...but they are entitled too...however, a journalist has an different ethical level.....

The problem with ESPN is again their arrogance yes, they employ an ombudsmen to monitor their activites...good for them they deal in sports all day everyday and have sports figures climbing over each other to appear on their shows....

My question is why call them on it..who actually gets their sports news from Yahoo....and what impact did the erroneous reporting (blogging) have on the world.....it is a simple issue of a Yahoo rep over reaching into a genre that ESPN will protect...it would be like ESPN reporting first that Hillary will drop out next week.....so what who would believe them anyway

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I know the Yahoo story was the headline on every local news/web down here cman.

Yahoo is trying to play with the big boys and I think they "went for it" and it's going to backfire. Some on ESPN do the same thing at times because they have 8 billion journalists so not all of them are going to be good and respectable.

I guess it's frustrating because I do like reading the rumors from the Rumor sites, sections but when you see something like that from a news site (yes, I will give you they are not a leading sports news site) - but you expect it to be true.

How can Yahoo keep a guy like this? Of course assuming he is not traded
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I agree about John Clayton being very credible
Yea i agree here too, John Clayton is probably the best NFL expert ESPN has, i cant stand Sean Salsbeary
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Yea i agree here too, John Clayton is probably the best NFL expert ESPN has, i cant stand Sean Salsbeary
Sean got fired (or contract not renewed) Will. Your wish was granted
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yes I know it was not a blogger....I just think Parcells is using his relationship with ESPN to piss on a reporter who very clearly was acting on a leak inside the Parcell camp....

Why make that story up...we are talking about Jason Taylor

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Sean got fired Will. Your wish was granted
guess i missed this
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I agree with why make it up

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yes I know it was not a blogger....I just think Parcells is using his relationship with ESPN to piss on a reporter who very clearly was acting on a leak inside the Parcell camp....

Why make that story up...we are talking about Jason Taylor

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I guess that’s the question. Was it a leak or an assumption or “gut feeling”. I hate when the articles say “unnamed sources”
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Old 03-02-2008, 01:35 PM
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I guess that’s the question. Was it a leak or an assumption or “gut feeling”. I hate when the articles say “unnamed sources”
We all do..but thanks to "Watergate and deep throat", stories like this about a guy who helped his team win one game last year and helped them lose 15 others are apart of culture....Parcells is a prima donna for even using this...

He will not be able to tolerate how far Miami has to come to even be competitive again.....

Taylor may well be his only tradeable commodity...he needs to get what he can for him because he is close to retirement and will not be around to see them actually get back to even a .500 ballclub

Pissing on a reporter is not going to help....actually trading Taylor for value will

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I guess that’s the question. Was it a leak or an assumption or “gut feeling”. I hate when the articles say “unnamed sources”

because then he gets article views and pub up...just like the charger hater guy did when he put out the garbage quotes of players talkin shit about norv but wouldnt quote any of them. he was on a few radio stations in sd, and one guy hung up on him cuz he said its garbage without anyone standing behind it
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Cman – I am not disputing whether they should trade him or not. Everyone knows he is their only chip, so does Jason Cole but that doesn’t mean everyone else writes an erroneous story about it

rjb - Exactly it's all about the publicity but if you don't have credibility in the end I think your f'd
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Cman – I am not disputing whether they should trade him or not. Everyone knows he is their only chip, so does Jason Cole but that doesn’t mean everyone else writes an erroneous story about it

rjb - Exactly it's all about the publicity but if you don't have credibility in the end I think your f'd
I agree everyone should not write an erroneous story about it...and I dont think everyone else has...

and the only people it upsets are the people at ESPN who possibly got scooped or the Dolphins front office who either planted or are pissed it got leaked (possibly by his agent)...or the good people of Miami who think he will be a part of the next possibly perfect season (and if they dont trade him they may get that season they just missed thanks to Baltimore)...


I have to ask has Yahoo printed a retraction?

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Old 03-02-2008, 11:09 PM
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My question is why call them on it..who actually gets their sports news from Yahoo....
You would be surprised. Certainly while people like us (sports gamblers) do not rely on Yahoo, there is a significant segment of American society that does, purely because it is convenient.
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