Mathletics: How Gamblers, Managers, and Sports Enthusiasts Use Mathematics..

[Romanowski]

http://www.amazon.com/Mathletics-Gam.../dp/069113913X

Just arrived from Amazon I am ready to dig into this book...

Written by a Professor who works for the Mavs...

Editorial Reviews

Review
Sports fans will learn much from probability theory and statistical models as they abandon empty clichés (time to throw momentum out of the informed fan's lexicon) and confront institutionalized injustices (such as those built into the protocols for selecting a national champion in college football and for seeding the NCAA's basketball tournament). A rare fusion of sports enthusiasm and numerical acumen.
(Booklist )

Review
Winston has an uncanny knack for bringing the game alive through the fascinating mathematical questions he explores. He gets inside professional sports like no other writer I know. Mathletics is like a seat at courtside.
(Mark Cuban, owner of the Dallas Mavericks )

[Romanowski]

ok I read thru one section of the football part, its divided into 3 bases, baskets, and foots

still just a part of the foots

apparently statistically proven....the most important stat when analyzing a team

both offensively and defensively

is yards/per pass attempt, higher the better obv for an offense and lower the better for a defense

if you can only use one stat, its best to show efficiency

this has proven to be more important then rushing

[GFootsXtreme]

use that stat last year in the NFL playoffs and you lose every game Romo

use that stat for the super bowl 2 years ago, lose again

author may want to reconsider the importance of momentum

[Romanowski]

lol buy the book

I love how you love to argue with me with minuscle details that dont cover a bigger scope

this is your MO

author is smarter than you and myself

and I am smarter than you

in any case I suggest reading the book if your lefty mind can handle it

but to your poiont this is NOT the part of the book for gambling, that is separate part

this would be from say a GMs or coachs vantage in evaluating a team

ill report later on more fun facts

[smitch124]

Looking like a book I will be buying but would be interested in any feeling you have about it as you progress through the book

[uva3021]

does this come as a bundle with bill simmons' book of basketball?

lol

[Bronson7]

PDF the book, cheers.

[JDSilk]

Originally Posted by GFootsXtreme

the importance of momentum

[GFootsXtreme]

Originally Posted by Romanowski

lol buy the book

I love how you love to argue with me with minuscle details that dont cover a bigger scope

this is your MO

author is smarter than you and myself

and I am smarter than you

in any case I suggest reading the book if your lefty mind can handle it

but to your poiont this is NOT the part of the book for gambling, that is separate part

this would be from say a GMs or coachs vantage in evaluating a team

ill report later on more fun facts

You are currently at 52% in college football. Meaning you are exactly 2% above a monkey flipping a coin.

If you are smarter than me, than I will take lucky all day long my friend.

Sorry that you are unable to process my response as simply a helpful reponse to your post. That must be your superior intelligence at work

[Romanowski]

lmao

you see where the comes after I made the remark

gfooter calm down

we have history so I thought banter was ok

and apparently 44-37 is 52% in your world

but its 54% in mine

dork

[be47320]

i would kill to be 52% right now

[Romanowski]

Originally Posted by Romanowski

apparently statistically proven....the most important stat when analyzing a team

both offensively and defensively

is yards/per pass attempt, higher the better obv for an offense and lower the better for a defense

if you can only use one stat, its best to show efficiency

this has proven to be more important then rushing

Originally Posted by GFootsXtreme

use that stat last year in the NFL playoffs and you lose every game Romo

use that stat for the super bowl 2 years ago, lose again

author may want to reconsider the importance of momentum

ill revist this exchange once more to show you how wrong you are

not in your assertion but in your lapse of reading comprehension

The author merely said IF you can only use one stat

that passing, defensive and offensive, efficiency would give you the best indication who the best team is

then you come up with a couple games where that stat was meaningless

what am I missing? who said anything about not using momentum either?

I dont take forum exchanges too seriously but after we exchanged our philosophies in the political forum

which is gone for good reasons...

Its my observation that you want to challenge me blindly...

I have said some things in that forum that im sure would be fighting words for some

particularly to Motorcitypimp that I wish I could take back

Ill never forget something you said to me, that if you were to say in my presence

and not as a keyboard jockey my fist would have broken the cartilage and bone behind in your nose...

If you cant discern that one fact from the book might not apply to the super bowl 2 years ago

then you are indeed dumb

If you dont repect what I bring to CM

then id suggest you structure your arguments better

this is posted in main street for a reason...it doesnt apply to one event

So far through about a third of the book and its excellent

[GFootsXtreme]

Romo what makes you assume that my first post is a dismissal of your post? It was simply the most recent important sporting situation that it could have applied to. I didn't attack you, your argument, or that YPPA is an important stat. I simply stated that, for being such an important stat, it didn't seem to apply at all to the playoffs last year. And momentum sure did seem to be a factor for Arizona, or the Giants 2 years ago.

Are you really unaware of the abusiveness of your responses?
"how wrong you are"
"lapse in reading comprehension"
"you want to challenge me blindly"
"then you are indeed dumb"

or in the previous post, " love how you love to argue with me with minuscle details that dont cover a bigger scope...this is your MO"

and do you post this stuff really thinking it is not insulting, and shouldn't be interpreted that way? I guess my point is, it's not funny to call someone an idiot, or dumb or anything else. So if you say that stuff to be funny....it's not quite coming across as it may seem to you. Maybe that is your style and I just don't fully understand it.

Now on to business:
Yes I stand corrected, you are at 54%. My point there again is simply that there is plenty of room to improve, and not assume that a response to your initial post is a shot at you.

[Romanowski]

yes I am a dick on the keyboard at times...

but its usually only with those who a history has been established already...

I read much worse and without warrant from others..but fair enough

I do suggest reading the book

[GFootsXtreme]

fair enough romo. I know how you operate and can deal no problem. I just needed clarification there. I'll wait for you to finish the book first then look for the full report.