money mangemment

[gump]

i need some help on money management. i have a $1000 bank roll and not sure what my units should be at this point they are 1=$20 2=$40 3=$60 4=$120
5=220 not sure if this is good or not, any advice will help. Thanks

[be47320]

go all in on orlando to win series

[Jahred]

Originally Posted by gump

i need some help on money management. i have a $1000 bank roll and not sure what my units should be at this point they are 1=$20 2=$40 3=$60 4=$120
5=220 not sure if this is good or not, any advice will help. Thanks

1% , 2%, 3% so more like 10/20/30

fight greed

[be47320]

Originally Posted by be47320

go all in on orlando to win series

f me, nevermind, thought they played tomorrow

[Romanowski]

Originally Posted by gump

i need some help on money management. i have a $1000 bank roll and not sure what my units should be at this point they are 1=$20 2=$40 3=$60 4=$120
5=220 not sure if this is good or not, any advice will help. Thanks

dude how can 1 =20, then 2=40, 3=60 so far so good

then 4=120 ? wtf
then 5=220 ? lol

how about keeping scale...

jaysuis krist

[justdonating]

Flat bet 2.5%

[Grizzly Joe]

hmmm... found a pattern...

Originally Posted by gump

1=$20 2=$40 3=$60 4=$120 5=220

1. $20

2. ($20 X 2) = $40

3. ($40 X 2) - $20 = $60

4. ($60 X 2) = $120

5. ($120 X 2) - $20 = $220

6. ($220 X 2) = $440

7. ($440 X 2) - $20 = $860

[truegrinder]

i would do away with units.. just have large, medium , and small plays.. thats what i do... large would be 50. Medium 30. Small plays 10 apiece. If you want like GOW or GOY's then those should be 100..

[Beep]

With $1000 bucks I would flat bet no more then 30 bucks a game and that is pushing it.

[Kramer]

copy/paste



Correct money management is easy to explain.
It is almost impossible to adhere to.

There have been about as many 'systems' for varying the bet size as there
are systems to beat the craps table.

None of them work and all of them do harm by giving false expectations.
Double-up systems, star betting, the Kelly Criterion, etc. all have the same
thing in common.

They adversely affect the cash flow
and they raise the breakeven percentage that must be accomplished.

Any time you vary your bet size by the slightest amount,
you increase the breakeven percentage of 52.38.
\If you refigure your percentage after each bet,
your breakeven jumps to over 55%.


If you have 1 star and 5 star bets or bet twice as much on some plays,
you should understand that only the large bets are meaningful to whether
you will be a winner.


You might as well not bet the smaller ones.
In the end, they won't matter.


Some touts say you should increase your bet when you are
on a winning streak and decrease it when you are on a losing streak.
The key word is 'are'. If you won
yesterday, you 'were' on a winning streak.

But that was yesterday.
If you know you will win today, why not bet it all?
If you know you will lose today, you might consider not betting at all.

The problem with bet size is not the streaks, but the breakeven.

If you have a 56% advantage on each bet, over 200 games you will win
less than 50% about 17% of the time.

You will win more than 60% about 17% of the time.
Winning 100 and losing 100 with a 5% unit, you will lose 50%
of your bankroll to the vigorish.

(100 wins times $50 less 100 losses times $55 equals minus $500 on a $1,000 bankroll).

You will lower your bet and never get even.

I recommend playing no more than 2% of your bankroll.

Anything over 2% is unacceptably risky, even for recreational bettors.

The reality is that each person may be trying to accomplish something different.

If your goal is to afford entertainment and not go broke,
that is entirely different than my goal of making a living.

If you bet $100 a game on Monday night football to enjoy the game,
it will cost you $5 a week if you can go 50-50.

There is nothing wrong with that.

It's cheaper than a movie.

But that is entertainment expense, not an excellent investment vehicle.

To do sports betting in a serious way, you must treat it as you would any other business.

In sports betting, your inventory is your cash.

If you run out of cash, you are out of business.

The old saying is that you should not use your rent money to bet with.
That is true. But if you're betting for a living it is equally true that you must not use your gambling bankroll to pay the rent.

The amazing thing about sports betting is the return on investment (ROI)
that is possible. And there is no magic.

The return on investment is a function of the winning percentage
and the amount that is invested.

The amount invested is a function of how many games
(investments) are bet and how much is bet on each game.
It is the same as any business.

How many widgets did you sell and how much did you gross per widget.

In my case, I average between 1,000 and 1,200 plays per year.
Let's call it 1,000.

My pain tolerance is a 1% unit.
I will bet 1.1% of my bankroll on every bet.

That means I will bet 1% of my money 1,000 times...1000% of my bankroll....
That's 1000% of my bankroll. And again, I will bet 1000% of my bankroll. The same money 10 times in a year. That is why such a return is possible.

Now if I can win 56% of my plays, I will get a return on investment of nearly 100%.
I will win 560 bets and lose 440 bets.

I will pay a broker fee to the sportsbook of 44 bets.
Therefore, I will win 76 units. (76 times 1% equals 76%).

I will win $7.60 for every $100 that I bet. I will explain later how I end up with 100%.

A word here on that $7.60. I've seen many people come to town and try to make a living playing sports. Some of them think they can bet $100 a game and do it.

Well, think about it.

If they play 20 games a week, they will bet $2,000 and, if they are good,
make $7.60 times 20=$152. At $200 a game, they can expect $308.

That's pretty hard to live on.

I think the minimum that must be bet is $500.
That's only $760 a week and leaves no room for a bad streak.
To bet $500 at 1%, you need $50,000.

Like any business, you should continue to invest some of the profits to grow the business.

As soon as you can draw from the business, you should put yourself on a salary. That way you can know what to expect for an income and won't be bothered by the short term vagaries of Lady Luck.

You just need to know the number of bets, the amount per bet, and the win percentage, and you will know what to pay the IRS next year.

After 19 years, I know the number of plays I have each year.

I know what my bet size is.

And with 1,000 plays, the standard deviation for my win percentage is 2.
So I know I will win between 55% and 57%.

Sounds rather dull when I put it that way.
And I guess it actually is.
Bernard Baruch, the great financier, said he always looked for boring businesses.
They were well run, without surprises and he knew what to expect.

I know what to expect. One great lesson my brother, JR, pointed out to me was that with a 56% expectation, your bankroll would reach a new high only 5% of the time. Nineteen out of 20 days you will be below your bankroll high.


The novice thinks you should have more money each day.

I also know that with a 56% win rate and 100 bets a month,
I will lose money every 9th month.
Good money management is aided by knowing what to expect.

As a final note on bet size, I should add that I use a plateau system.

I bet 1% of my bank and continue to flat bet until my bank grows by at least 25%.

Then I recalculate the 1%.

Thus if I started with $10,000, I would bet $100 a game until my bank
grows to at least $12,500.

At that point, I would refigure my unit to $125.
It would stay there until I reached at least $15,625. That way my actual risk reward ratio doesn't get too high. The other thing that I do that is unique and rather arguable is that I never lower my bet. Remember, if you vary the bet, your breakeven goes up. At a 1% unit and 19 year's experience, I'm comfortable that I can ride through a losing streak. If you lose 10 games at $200 a bet and lower the bet to $180,
you must win 12.2 bets to get back to even.

That is how I get my 100% annual ROI.
My actual bet goes up during the year as my bankroll reaches higher plateaus.