poker question

[dhunter]

i know that if everyone folds, a player can choose to reveal only one card.

but if called on the river and there's a showdown, do both players have to show both cards?

so for example, if there's 4 hearts on the board and a player has the ace of hearts and a 4. can he just show the ace?

i thought he is required to show both if there's a showdown. this argument came up in our home game.

[be47320]

yeah...winning hand has to show both

[Seanie Mac]

^^^

[dhunter]

ok thanks guys

[Seanie Mac]

how about this situation if you are the player, this happened at casino yesterday in 1/2

preflop raise to 10, 1 caller. PFR'er cbets 15, caller raises to 35,PFR'er goes all in for 35 more or 70 total caller just sticks a stack of about 60 into the pot to call.

It's set over set, dealer never counts down the chips and scoops the whole pot to the winner.

a 25 minute issue then occurred as to what should be done. I watched the guy cut out the 35 more all in so I said this. They actually went thru the whole hand with a calculator to figure out how much the pot was, - rake, and made the player give back the difference. I know that's ethical but is that even legal?

[ParrotHead]

Winning hand has to show both cards at showdown.

Player who put in the last bet or raise has to show first, unless they just muck

[Kramer]

Originally Posted by Seanie Mac

how about this situation if you are the player, this happened at casino yesterday in 1/2

preflop raise to 10, 1 caller. PFR'er cbets 15, caller raises to 35,PFR'er goes all in for 35 more or 70 total caller just sticks a stack of about 60 into the pot to call.

It's set over set, dealer never counts down the chips and scoops the whole pot to the winner.

a 25 minute issue then occurred as to what should be done. I watched the guy cut out the 35 more all in so I said this. They actually went thru the whole hand with a calculator to figure out how much the pot was, - rake, and made the player give back the difference. I know that's ethical but is that even legal?

am I reading correct ?

Maybe similar to this?

If a player declares all in and loses but discovers some of their chips
were hidden and not placed into the pot what should happen next ?

A) Bet is refunded to loser and hand declared misdeal
b) Bet stands losing player continues with chips left
C) Winner keeps chip provided they had amount calling
D) leftover chips removed regardless

answer should be C

[Seanie Mac]

guy did the ol' just stick out chips to make the call official and the dealer never counted player A's total all in, or the amount of the chips in the stack player B pushed forward to call.

neither player showed until the river, and were on opposite ends of the table and both were looking to see what each other had, dealer pushes up the winning 5 card hand, guy with the lower set sits back down and is like damn and starts saying how much that sucks

dealer just pulls in his chips he pushed out and scoops pot to the winner

[dhunter]

the dealer ****ed up. he should always make sure that there's the correct amount.

[bigsportsguy2006]

yea .... deale ris a ducking moron lol .. where this happen seanie? harrahs chester?

[Seanie Mac]

yea but can the pitboss actually make the guy give the other guy money back? because they calculated how much he should have and then counted what he had, subtracted the rake and made him give back the difference which was $25 I think

[Seanie Mac]

Originally Posted by bigsportsguy2006

yea .... deale ris a ducking moron lol .. where this happen seanie? harrahs chester?

yea yesterday. They have some work to do with that poker room

[TheLink]

sure they can make him give the guy money back. Poker room totally messed up and shouldn't be the fault of the guy who just put the stack out there regardless how careless he was.

[Kramer]

If dealer mistake , you disagree with pit manager
you could prob ask to see casino manager
i'd like to talk to pit bosses manager , he has one too ..

we alll are prone to make mistakes in our jobs ,
managers are also ..

just explain mistake see what casino manager says..

[Seanie Mac]

but my point is let's say a kid who is 19 gets busted for underage gambling, they can't take his chips or make him give them back to people he won it off of, yet it's security/dealer fault for letting him play.