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Old 10-26-2009, 10:17 AM
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Question for the parents at Cappersmall

Want opinions from Parents that have kids that play sports. My son plays on a High School football team and he is suffering from a sprained ankle and a bad shoulder. This last friday at the game one of the coaches gave my son a tylenol with Codene (sp) in it. The coach never asked me he just gave it to him and then after the game had started he came over and told my wife and I. I take my son out of the town we live in and transport him 30 miles each and every day so that he can get a better education. Now I ask the parents in here, would you be pissed and what would you do. I have coached High School football for 10 years now and the rules and regs are very clear. You can not give kids asprin on the field let alone a controled substance. I feel like my son was treated as a piece of meat and now I sit here wondering what to do. I called 10 coaches that I respect very much, they have all told me that this man should not be around kids and some of them wanted to know what he was doing on the side lines with codene in the first place. I have talked with 10 coaches that I respect like no other. They all say that the coach needs to be kicked off the team. That in turn will hurt the team and beings my son is not from the town I may have to move him once again. As a parent I believe I have to turn this in but I would appreciate any input from the families at Cappersmall. No game is worth winning enough that you have to give kids drugs.
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Agree that it needs to be brought to the attention of the school board, and let them make the call.

FWIW--Tylenol with codeine is not much more than an extra strength aspirin. But it is the point here.
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What the coach gave your son doesnt sound that unreasonable, but the fact that he did that on the sideline is.

I would talk to your son about this first and let it be his decision. He's going to be the one that has to endure all the consequences as far as his teammates turning on him or changing schools. Neither are an easy task.

Either way i would address the coach or school board just depending on how your son wants to handle it. Obviously if he is staying then the coach should be addressed in a respectful manner so he doesnt hold it against your kid.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:52 AM
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My child like some others have reactions to codeine so it definitely needs to be addressed. Could have major problems at some point if not.
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:08 AM
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FWIW--Tylenol with codeine is not much more than an extra strength aspirin. But it is the point here.
I have a problem with this statement.

TYLENOL® with Codeine
(acetaminophen and codeine phosphate) Tablets, USP

Each tablet contains:
Acetaminophen. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300 mg
No. 3 Codeine Phosphate . . . . . . . . . . . 30 mg
(Warning: May be habit forming)

Steel, in my opinion, the coach should be fired and in fact has probably committed a felony by giving your son a controlled substance.
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going through all my certifications right now to finish up my teaching degree and have been spending a lot of time in and around high schools, with a lot of emphasis on the laws and rules that we have to follow as educators and this kind of stuff is really innappropriate and very clearly stated within any of the official documentation/handbooks of the schools and state boards of ed.

I think it's way out of line from that point. I agree with BFD that you should first talk with your son, but ultimately, this is a really potentially dangerous thing, because, as Mark said, it may not be your kid but it could be the next kid or say the kid happens to like the way it makes him feel? I mean there are so many bad things that come out fo this when the coach really should be saying ok ice it up and start restin and then let you guys//your physician handle the pain relief from a pharmaceutical standpoint.

I would certainly document that this all took place as soon as possible and react according to a combination of your sons reaction and the best interest of the students
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dont have any kids, but steel definitely in the right imo
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:28 AM
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Well, it doesn't sound like you are a win at all costs kind of parent. One that makes their kids do things they don't want to do in order to fulfill something they never accomplished in their life - kudos for that. Also, you have an impressionable son who probably looks up to the coach in question and wants to perform well for his teammates. The latter part of this statement says a lot about the way that you raised him - he is likely thinking about other people before he thinks about what the coach has likely told him is some pesky injury. I had a coach in high school that would ask if we were hurt or were we injured. The answer is that you can play hurt, but not injured. Play through the pain, etc...

I was an all state kicker and punter in high school and I knew my limits on what I could and couldn't do. I knew that I couldn't kick 100 balls a day and make it through the season. A couple of assistant coaches on the other hand thought I could kick 100+ balls a day, run hills, wind sprints and do up/downs (tell me why pk/p's need to do these) and be just fine. 2 games into the season, the head coach asked me what was wrong with my kicking. I told him the practice regiment I had been forced to do for 4 weeks and that I was worn out, and that furthermore, the guys working with special teams didn't know shit about kicking or punting and I would appreciate it if they stayed the hell away from me. We did it one week my way and I was back on track. All State honors and a DI-AA scholarship.

The point of me telling you all of this is that there are probably lots of things going on here. 1) It sounds like your kid has put the team in front of himself - good job Dad. However, this particular coach is possibly taking that desire too far in order to fulfill his own wishes. 2) It is very possible that the head coach of the football team doesn't even know this happened. Tell the head coach first (in my opinion) before you tell the principal, school board, etc. If he doesn't do anything about it, you'll have to go over his head. 3) Talk to your son about his injury and find out how bad it really is. If he's got to take a week off to let it heal, then so be it. Your kid's long term health is way more important than any football game, even if you live in Texas.

Best of luck, Dad. It's difficult to help your kids balance all of this stuff, but he needs your help. After all, he's just in high school. We all thought we knew everything there was to know when we were in high school, but looking back on it, we didn't know squat. Good luck.
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Talk to the coach man to man off the record.Tell him your concerns and that you think it is wrong to do what he did.What happened to face to face?Turn him in,turn him in, wtf has the world come to?Sue happy blame someone attitude is just plain BS.If he is an asshole about it then by all means tell someone but give him a chance to correct it.
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My son is going to be a teacher and I would hope that if he fuked up(and everyone does)that it could be fixed without ruining his careerer.
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Talk to the coach man to man off the record.Tell him your concerns and that you think it is wrong to do what he did.What happened to face to face?Turn him in,turn him in, wtf has the world come to?Sue happy blame someone attitude is just plain BS.If he is an asshole about it then by all means tell someone but give him a chance to correct it.
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Also....how do you know it was Tylenol with Codeine??? Word of mouth or did someone tell you therefore it may have or have not really been that
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Talk to the coach man to man off the record.Tell him your concerns and that you think it is wrong to do what he did.What happened to face to face?Turn him in,turn him in, wtf has the world come to?Sue happy blame someone attitude is just plain BS.If he is an asshole about it then by all means tell someone but give him a chance to correct it.
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