Roger Goodell

[Dr. Jack]

What do most people think as him as Commissioner. I think the mid to older guys probably think he's doing good but what about younger generations?

How would you rate him compared to past commissioners?

[Keith]

at 46, I'm pretty sure that I am not considered the "younger generation." LOL

That being said, I think he has done a very good job. Certainly better than Stern, Selig and Bettman.

[ZoomVT]

it will depend if he avoids a lockout or not. if he does then he could make a bunch of bad decisions and still be very good. if he doesnt avoid the lockout, then it will be a big black mark on his resume IMO

[ConstantColorUpor]

I'm in the younger generation and I like what he has done as far as disciplining the players who were once allowed to act without consequence. By doing so hes made it clear to these players how much a privilege it is to play in the NFL and they must act as others in society are expected to act, or they too will face consequences. In regards to the rule changes to protect the qb/wr, I understand them and they will be beneficial in the long run, but I dont like them. Being someone who played football through college, I think it really takes away from the game when people are doubting themselves and slowing up because they are worried about a fine. And you cant even touch the qb anymore which is ridiculous. But again I do understand how these rules are beneficial, and are better for the players health, which is very important. Overall, I like what he has done.

[BigFratDaddy]

doing a good job. only person who rivals Dr. Jack when it comes to laying down the law....

[Romanowski]

every era has had a perfect commish IMO for that era

Rozelle was perfect when the NFL needed to expand and before football was #1

hes still #1 in my book, probably because he was a behind the scenes advocate for gambling

[bigsportsguy2006]

Originally Posted by ZoomVT

it will depend if he avoids a lockout or not. if he does then he could make a bunch of bad decisions and still be very good. if he doesnt avoid the lockout, then it will be a big black mark on his resume IMO

fcuk ... i actually agree with zoom. avoid the lockout, and i am happy

[Sweetleaf22]

Hes all over the map, what happens next time someone is accused of something...Power tripping. Im fine with him making Ben a example to try to keep the player in check. Im sure players are afraid to step on a ant crossing the street now. I think it sould have been 2tops, but its 4 tops.

If hes worried about the league image, should have handled spygate better. He was going to sweep it under rug untill Spector came in and said no no. And we find out it wasnt one side of the ball for one year. It was two sides of the Ball for 7 years.......


But lets see how he handles/avoids a lockout like zoom mentioned.


Liked the last two commish very much,,,,,I guess time will tell,,,,,,Not good to have one guy with so much power making susp's on moral judements>>walk the line for now

[JDSilk]

Dr J,

I dont remember much of Paul T, but Goddell seems to be doing alright. Theres probably a reason why football is the most popular sport in America, and you dont have the commissioner in the spotlight that much. Because he is doing the job right.

I can see where some might be against Roger though. He has done little things with the draft, the pro bowl, ect that might irk some. But I think hes doing just fine.

[mrwho]

Originally Posted by JDSilk

Dr J,

I dont remember much of Paul T, but Goddell seems to be doing alright. Theres probably a reason why football is the most popular sport in America, and you dont have the commissioner in the spotlight that much. Because he is doing the job right.

I can see where some might be against Roger though. He has done little things with the draft, the pro bowl, ect that might irk some. But I think hes doing just fine.

thats cause every race in america bets on football..i can tell u i'm asian and aside from forum world..hardly much i know bet on bases or baskets..and of course no hockey at all..

[Dr. Jack]

Roger wins again with his splitting up the draft but I agree the lockout holds his key. Assuming there is no lockout, when all said & done, Roger in my opinion will go down as a great commissioner. Not sure if the best but the guy knows what he's doing

[Steel]

Guy doesnt back down and now that he stuck his boot in Ben's ass I have a lot more respect for him. With the economy being in the shitter the NFL can not afford to not get this agreement done.

[Sweetleaf22]

How can NFL commissioner Roger Goodell suspend Roethlisberger for six games and tell Raiders coach Tom Cable to keep on keepin' on?

Cable was accused last year of breaking assistant coach Randy Hanson's jaw in an unprovoked attack in training camp. Cable, like Roethlisberger, has never been convicted of a crime. He avoided prosecution for allegedly hitting Hansen at least partly because people who are beholden to him vouched for him. (Raiders assistant coaches would not corroborate Hansen's story.)

Cable has been on the wrong side of accusations before. ESPN reported last year that his ex-wife and ex-girlfriend each said he hit them, and that a third woman, Cable's second-wife, said in divorce documents that "in the past he has been physically and verbally abusive to me."

That is a larger pattern of misconduct than Roethlisberger's. Cable has been accused by four people; Roethlisberger was accused by two. Roethlisberger can plausibly argue that his civil suit in Nevada is just a money-grab by the alleged rape survivor. (I am absolutely not saying I agree. I'm just saying that would be his defense, and a man is entitled to a defense.) Cable can't make that argument.

If you read Goodell's public letter to Roethlisberger, so much of it applies to Cable, too.

"Your conduct raises sufficient concerns that I believe effective intervention now is the best step for your personal and professional welfare. ... I urge you to take full advantage of this opportunity to get your life and career back on track."

The commissioner told Cable he did not violate the league's conduct policy. Hanson is now suing the Raiders. The Raiders are trying to move the case out of the courtroom and into arbitration -- with Goodell as the arbitrator. In other words, Goodell would have to choose between the Raiders (who employ him) and Hanson (whose claims he has already effectively dismissed). Gee, I wonder who would win that one.

Yes, Roethlisberger will play three straight nationally televised games after he returns from one of the most publicized suspensions in sports history. I would believe in the tooth fairy, the Loch Ness Monster and anything John Edwards says before I'd believe this is a coincidence.

Apparently Goodell is outraged enough to suspend Roethlisberger, but not too outraged to use Roethlisberger's return from suspension to boost TV ratings.

Goodell, I'm afraid, is reinforcing an long-standing sports-world belief: that players are always subservient to coaches, and therefore must conform to a narrower standard acceptable behavior. Coaches can be individuals, yell to get their point across and even use force. Players are supposed to take it, for the good of the team.

It is 2010. If anything, coaches should be held to a higher behavioral standard than players. They are higher on the organizational food chain. They have more power. If I ran a team, I would be much more understanding of a 25-year-old player messing up than if a 50-year-old coach did. I would be livid if a general manager or team president did it.

But the sheriff's jurisdiction should cover the whole league, not just the players. His public letter to Roethlisberger might as well have ended like this:

If you want to misbehave, become a coach.


Michael Rosenberg

[GFootsXtreme]

Goodell is the best thing that has happened to the NFL imo. He's the only commissioner of any of the major sports with the nuts to actually start holding the athletes to a standard where they actually stopped feeling entitled to their jobs no matter what they do

There is no debate that Rothlesberger put himself into another situation where he may have raped a woman. Whether or not he did is of course very important. But the point is that his problem is not with women accusing him...that may have been the case the first time.

The problem is it becomes obvious the guy has serious criminal-type issues. Why? Because he is the starting QB on a Super Bowl winner. He has no problem getting girls if he wants them.

But he has been accused twice now, and the 2nd time was while the 1st was still going. His bodyguards enabled him? He put himself in a situation with drunk 20-something girls and exposed himself?

Guy has major sexual predator problems sweet.

Yes sweet, it may suck that your beloved QB, who is an excellent player, has serious issues, so bad that he probably needs to be locked up. Consider it a favor that he is being suspended because maybe he'll learn something from it.

[Sweetleaf22]

I guess you just missed the whole point.............

Its not about ben, its a double standard..






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Cable was accused last year of breaking assistant coach Randy Hanson's jaw in an unprovoked attack in training camp. Cable, like Roethlisberger, has never been convicted of a crime. He avoided prosecution for allegedly hitting Hansen at least partly because people who are beholden to him vouched for him. (Raiders assistant coaches would not corroborate Hansen's story.)

Cable has been on the wrong side of accusations before. ESPN reported last year that his ex-wife and ex-girlfriend each said he hit them, and that a third woman, Cable's second-wife, said in divorce documents that "in the past he has been physically and verbally abusive to me."

That is a larger pattern of misconduct than Roethlisberger's. Cable has been accused by four people; Roethlisberger was accused by two. Roethlisberger can plausibly argue that his civil suit in Nevada is just a money-grab by the alleged rape survivor. (I am absolutely not saying I agree. I'm just saying that would be his defense, and a man is entitled to a defense.) Cable can't make that argument.

If you read Goodell's public letter to Roethlisberger, so much of it applies to Cable, too.

"Your conduct raises sufficient concerns that I believe effective intervention now is the best step for your personal and professional welfare. ... I urge you to take full advantage of this opportunity to get your life and career back on track."