sometimes sports just sucks

[newfie reddog]

how can a guy win the daytona 500 after 152 of 200 laps?....fkn stupid.................

how can a guy win the pebble beach golf tourney after 3 rounds?fkn stupid.....

this is not sports...

how would you feel if the super bowl winner was the leader after 3 quarters because of weather......

imo....racing and golf are not true sports after this fking bullshit......

btw i wagered nothing on either of these events, i am just pissed off as a sports fan, anybody else feel the same way....

[ConstantColorUpor]

No what are you taking about this is awesome takes away the chance of any spectacular finish, who wants to see those anyways?<--- Sarcasm

[Patriots Game]

Well, I did wager on the Pebble and had Mike Weir to win it all.
I think I may be sick when I see Pinny grade it as a loss even though the 4th round wasn't played.

[Wellahiya]

for sports racing i must say if i was the owner of the formula 1 like ecclestone i would make every race a 'bad weather race'... so much more interesting and needs more skill... cant be too hard to programm an algorithm to wet the track at a constant fair level + the attentants can sit in the sun

and for golf... sucks for sure to play in teh rain

[RanPicks]

Agree they are not sports... they are competitions. Golf - you are competing against a course... NACAR... you are relying on a mechanical device

[JAGCEC]

"Sports" vs. "Competitions"

That would make an interesting Discussion!!

[ConstantColorUpor]

I can understand cutting short a nascar race more so than cancelling the final round of a golf tournament. In the nascar race weather plays such a huge factor not only in deciding the race because of the strategy and everything but more importantly your playing with peoples lives. In a golf tournament, I mean lets be serious quit being little btches and finish the final 18.

[Mendoza Line]

Originally Posted by RanPicks

Agree they are not sports... they are competitions. Golf - you are competing against a course... NACAR... you are relying on a mechanical device

Agree as well. I'll accept "competition" in place of "sport" when it comes to golf. I don't like the fact that an 18-year-old girl or a 65-year-old man have the same chance of winning as a 30-year-old in his prime. My dad is 73 and recently shot a round of 77, including a hole-in-one. Most of us here couldn't do that. You obviously don't have to be an athlete (see John Daly) to compete. Just because Tiger and some others appear athletic doesn't necessarily make golf a sport. When a top athlete is washing his dishes, dish-washing is not a sport.

What NASCAR drivers do is amazing: riding an inch away from another car's bumper at 150 mph is quite a skill. Those kids that do the cup-stacking are quite skilled, too, but that isn't a sport, it's a competition. Strength and endurance both help the NASCAR driver, but that doesn't make it a sport, either. Furniture movers have both attributes as well, but the last time I checked, moving furniture isn't a sport. Success in NASCAR involves the car, the tires, the pit crew, the driver, garage support, engineers, sponsor money, being lucky enough to avoid getting caught up in crashes, and probably some things I'm forgetting.

[RanPicks]

Originally Posted by boucher21

I can understand cutting short a nascar race more so than cancelling the final round of a golf tournament. In the nascar race weather plays such a huge factor not only in deciding the race because of the strategy and everything but more importantly your playing with peoples lives. In a golf tournament, I mean lets be serious quit being little btches and finish the final 18.

both competition's reasoning for this is the next week's competition schedule.

NASCAR: have to drive to next track... practice; reparation/setup of cars.. all this takes time.

Golf: Practice rounds - getting to know the course, and then the thing starts on Thursday... travel time...

[BigdaddyQH]

The bottom line is this. YOu can call them whatever you want, but both are considered sports. Both have rules in place. If you wager and do not know the rules, that is on YOU, not the sport.

Obviously cars with slick tires can not drive in the rain. They did an experiment last year running a race in the rain, on rain tires. It was on a road course. It went O.K. You could not do it on a banked oval because all the water would puddle up in certain spots, causing havoc on the bottom of the track, where most cars like to run. These rules have been in place for years now. No excuse for not knowing them. Ran makes some very good points in his post.

[rudyvalle]

NASCAR has changed over the years. Before the network deal with Fox and other networks, they would have finished that race. Helton said that they wouldnt' be able to get the race going again until 11:00 and he thought that the fans had seen a good race to that point. What crap. You think that anyone in the stands would have minded to wait until 11:00? You think any driver except Kenseth, would have minded to stick around to finish that race. Typical Helton BS, we won't have any national coverage because Fox has to show their animation domination. Switch it to the speed channel, I guarantee they would have loved to show the final laps of the Daytona. Why not wait until Monday to finish it? It's the biggest race of the year, let it be decided on the track.

Yeah, they have to go to California next week, but that takes one day, they all fly out there anyway.

[Bronson7]

Sports shouldn't have rain delays or be postponed.

[Bosox Fan]

Originally Posted by rudyvalle

NASCAR has changed over the years. Before the network deal with Fox and other networks, they would have finished that race. Helton said that they wouldnt' be able to get the race going again until 11:00 and he thought that the fans had seen a good race to that point. What crap. You think that anyone in the stands would have minded to wait until 11:00? You think any driver except Kenseth, would have minded to stick around to finish that race. Typical Helton BS, we won't have any national coverage because Fox has to show their animation domination. Switch it to the speed channel, I guarantee they would have loved to show the final laps of the Daytona. Why not wait until Monday to finish it? It's the biggest race of the year, let it be decided on the track.

Yeah, they have to go to California next week, but that takes one day, they all fly out there anyway.

rudyvalle, it is much more than just waiting it out. There are many more factors to look at. One, what about the security and police officers that have already been dealing working since sunrise? Now you have even drunker fans they have to deal with. What about vendors that only have planned for beer and food sales until say 7 pm. (and you know the minute they run out of beer or hot dogs or what ever, the fans will say why did they not have enough). Just to name a few.

Maybe in the past it would have been easier to hold the race to Monday, but with all the cut backs Nascar is doing due to the economy they could not hold it to Monday. The majority of the teams now only employ 1 transportation crew and it would be virtually impossible to get to California in time if they finished the race on Monday. And by the way, they can not fly the cars and tools to Cali. Not to mention, what are the fans going to do? No hotel room, lets sleep in the car? I will just call into work tomorrow, no worries?

The fact is that no matter what happened or should have happened, someone would have been pissed!

[tigerman19]

if these are all you guys reasoning for sports vs. competition, then what is sport. competing not only against course and track, but also other players. how is any other sport different. ok, maybe more physical but these are both sports. imo these 2 are some of the purest sports b/c you are not depending on teammates(maybe nascar). it is on you. i don't agree with them being shortened but logistics caused that. btw each year there are many baseball games called after 5 1/2 innings b/c of rain. is that now a competition??

[RanPicks]

Originally Posted by Bronson7

Sports shouldn't have rain delays or be postponed.

baseball... rain equals batting practice for hitters... can't throw anything with any movement if you try to throw a strike...