Which sports scandal is worse in your opinion

[Snowman]

This was a question in our city newspaper yesterday and the results were posted today. It really shocked me the outcome.

[Seanie Mac]

dogfighting. that shit is just sick. castrate vick and all his "boys"

gambling not that big of a shock, suprised it hasnt popped up more

steroids.....come on lol, who wanst on them in the 90s lol, plus they werent even a banned substance right?

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Seanie Mac

dogfighting. that shit is just sick. castrate vick and all his "boys"

gambling not that big of a shock, suprised it hasnt popped up more

steroids.....come on lol, who wanst on them in the 90s lol, plus they werent even a banned substance right?

totally agree with you. 47% of people said the NBA ref was the worst. Only like 35% said dogfighting.

Dogfighting is by far the worst IMO.

[BigdaddyQH]

I can not classify Steriod use and Dog Fighting as "betting scandals". I do not think that the winner of a dog fight has a direct result in Vick winning or losing a game on that following Sunday.

[domafia]

C'mon now, it's steroids easy. We're all tired of the story because of how long it's dragged on, but the fact that people are still talking about it tells you how big a deal it is. The whole interity of baseball's stars and records is in question over the last 10-15 years.

Dogfighting thing is wrong, but it's isolated to one idiot player in the NFL. Maybe the general public has been blind to it going on, but dogfighting has been around for a long-ass time and has been glorified by the hip-hop world for damn near 10 years now. This has like no effect on the sport of football at all, it's big only because it's a big star.

The NBA thing is pretty bad too, but for now I'll believe it was isolated to one ref who was fixing 1 game a week. And remember this was ATS fixing, I doubt greatly he was able to directly control who actually won those games. It's shitty news for gamblers, but this happened in such a small percentage of games overall. The real shock is if this is really only isolated in the NBA. This could easily be happening in college hoops and other sports as well, just hasn't been weeded out yet.

[domafia]

And yes, QH is right about the title of this thread being a bit off. These are sports scandals, not betting scandals.

[pwherr]

Never bet on dog fighting in my life and never will so that's out
Roids never made me lose any money either
So this is pretty much a no brainer a ref that changes the out come of a sport I bet now and then
Dumb question IMO

[BigdaddyQH]

Originally Posted by domafia

C'mon now, it's steroids easy. We're all tired of the story because of how long it's dragged on, but the fact that people are still talking about it tells you how big a deal it is. The whole interity of baseball's stars and records is in question over the last 10-15 years.

Dogfighting thing is wrong, but it's isolated to one idiot player in the NFL. Maybe the general public has been blind to it going on, but dogfighting has been around for a long-ass time and has been glorified by the hip-hop world for damn near 10 years now. This has like no effect on the sport of football at all, it's big only because it's a big star.

The NBA thing is pretty bad too, but for now I'll believe it was isolated to one ref who was fixing 1 game a week. And remember this was ATS fixing, I doubt greatly he was able to directly control who actually won those games. It's shitty news for gamblers, but this happened in such a small percentage of games overall. The real shock is if this is really only isolated in the NBA. This could easily be happening in college hoops and other sports as well, just hasn't been weeded out yet.

I pretty much agree with this. Just to add a few thoughts. ATS fixing is called "shaving" points and that is what really goes on. Refs or players on teams do not "throw" games. It is just as easy to shave a few points off your score or manipulate the game by calling more or less fouls in it. If a team is ahead by 6 points with a second or two leaft and two free throws are needed to send the total over, you can bet that fouls will be called to do this. Does that affect the actual won-loss outcome? No. Now I think that this is being done by more than one ref and by a few players as well, but not as often as once a week. Stern said that this was an "isolated" incident, but he and the NBA have "isolated" minds, so what would they know?

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by domafia

And yes, QH is right about the title of this thread being a bit off. These are sports scandals, not betting scandals.

I messed up the title and when I realized that I did, it was too late to fix. Was just supposed to say sports scandal. If you could change it for me dom it would be appreciated.. I got it right in the poll at least

[BigdaddyQH]

If you change it to sports scandal, then steroids is totally unimportant. We all know that Bonds is juiced. He will set the Home Run record. ARod will break it, and Bonds will be a forgotten man left to suffer the slow painful fate that will await him when he stops taking steroids and his body reminds him of what he sacrificed for a little glory.

Hoops fixing is terrible, but not that out of the ordinary. It has been done many times before. If you were on the wrong side of a wager involving one of these games, consider it a cost of doing business. As long as people wager on hoops, this possibility will exist.

Dog fighting also has been around for a long time, but has never been associated with a sports figure. It's cruelty is unquestionable. To believe that any sports figure could get involved with this is hard to fathom. The Vick family obviously has major mental and emotional problems to overcome. Both boys seem to love inflicting pain on people, or animals, be it stepping on someone's face, or torturing a helpless animal. That family has to rank amongst the top families involved in Sports Scandals, if we use the new definition.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH

That family has to rank amongst the top families involved in Sports Scandals, if we use the new definition.

Lol I hear you on this one.

Let me see,Marcus went to Va Tech,the house was in Va...why the hell is he not a defendant because I can guarantee the thug was in on this.

[domafia]

Originally Posted by Snowman

I messed up the title and when I realized that I did, it was too late to fix. Was just supposed to say sports scandal. If you could change it for me dom it would be appreciated.. I got it right in the poll at least

done.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by domafia

done.

thanks man

[Seanie Mac]

imo the basketball scandal just brought light to what everyone already knew. as a pet owner, the dog one strikes closer to home i guess. everytime they start giving detailed explanations of what he did to those dogs i have to change the channel. someone should drown his ass

[Seanie Mac]

this steroid thing will be over once barry breaks the record and gets indicted. i mean come on, even lenny dykstra was on roids. it did wonders for the game and brought baseball back