Is Tiger a drug cheat?

[dave nz]

Has he used perfomance enhancing drugs during his pro career?

Personally I wouldn't be at all surprised, reduces your chances of getting Injured, he's cheated in another area of his life why not here too?

The truth we may never know with the masking measures these days.

Vote away.

[PurpleMaddy]

As a personal trainer I can tell you one thing. When Tiger broke into the golf scene he was a skinny rake, he wore baggy t-shirts and his pants hung off his ass. At the age of 25 your body goes into a slow down mode, meaning that not matter how hard you try (working out) you will not build mass. The only other way to build mass is to take steroids. Take a look at Tiger when he came onto the scene and right up until about 5 years ago. There is definately a transformation there.

Think about it: Tiger religiously practices his golf swing. Does practicing a golf swing produce a middle linebacker body? Compare his body from a few years ago to Barry Bonds - pre steroids: identical transformation. I've been in the gym for many years and have known people who are on the juice. A lot of high-achieving lifters bodies look wimpy compared to Tiger's. It's juice, people!

Woods should be tested by the PGA and the USGA. If it is found that he has used substances which are not permitted according to the rules of those governing bodies, he should be stripped of his championships. To do anything else would be to the detriment of the so-called "integrity" of the game that we hear golf's ruling elitists constantly uphold as the standard for other sports to try to achieve. Let the truth be brought out and put an end to all the speculation one way or another.

[dave nz]

Originally Posted by PurpleMaddy

As a personal trainer I can tell you one thing. When Tiger broke into the golf scene he was a skinny rake, he wore baggy t-shirts and his pants hung off his ass. At the age of 25 your body goes into a slow down mode, meaning that not matter how hard you try (working out) you will not build mass. The only other way to build mass is to take steroids. Take a look at Tiger when he came onto the scene and right up until about 5 years ago. There is definately a transformation there.

Think about it: Tiger religiously practices his golf swing. Does practicing a golf swing produce a middle linebacker body? Compare his body from a few years ago to Barry Bonds - pre steroids: identical transformation. I've been in the gym for many years and have known people who are on the juice. A lot of high-achieving lifters bodies look wimpy compared to Tiger's. It's juice, people!

Woods should be tested by the PGA and the USGA. If it is found that he has used substances which are not permitted according to the rules of those governing bodies, he should be stripped of his championships. To do anything else would be to the detriment of the so-called "integrity" of the game that we hear golf's ruling elitists constantly uphold as the standard for other sports to try to achieve. Let the truth be brought out and put an end to all the speculation one way or another.

I am also a qualified personal trainer, albeit havn't practiced for years. I respectfully disagree completely with your first paragraph. I've known many people who have built mass in that age bracket. In fact a man's strength peak is not until he reaches his early thirties.

[PurpleMaddy]

Originally Posted by dave nz

I am also a qualified personal trainer, albeit havn't practiced for years. I respectfully disagree completely with your first paragraph. I've known many people who have built mass in that age bracket. In fact a man's strength peak is not until he reaches his early thirties.

Studies have proven that at the age of 25 it is harder to build mass. Now I am not saying that those studies are 100% correct, for there are cases where people can still build mass. But then that ugly question rears its ugly head, he must be on the juice. Plus it depends on what your meaning of building mass is. If your 30 and over weight and lose that weight and tone up, well yeah, you are going to look like your building mass. But if you are in excellent shape at 25, and keep working out you will not notice much change in your body mass. If you are powerlifting, then you will notice a difference, but Tiger is not a power lifter, he is a golfer, lol.

[Windy City Irish]

ive built alot of mass since age 25

[Victor]

I say no. Tiger does work out a lot and has his muscles right where he want`s them. Not to big to where he can`t swing like he does and not to small where he can`t power a ball if he want`s to.

[BLBisinnocent]

i swear, people dont think before they speak......

do you understand how much money and notoriety is out there for someone to expose a Tiger Woods for using PEDs? Yet somehow he is able to purchase and use these drugs and no one has said a thing? Unless he is manufacturing HGH in his basement using a homeade recipe, if Tiger was juicing it would have come out by now......

[BigFratDaddy]

i think at some point he has. do i care, no. would i, yes. do i think he used a big roid building type product, no. something else, yes.

who the fk cares anymore. every sport should have testing and stfu. i hate steroid talk i dont care about it. everyone cheats if they can and have for 50 years.

[mrwho]

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who the fk cares anymore. every sport should have testing and stfu. i hate steroid talk i dont care about it. everyone cheats if they can and have for 50 years.[/QUOTE]

uhh...there's a diff if its a sport where alot use it, then you cant really say anything about anyone using it ie like baseball or maybe even football. But if it ever comes out that tiger juiced and prob would be him alone in golf..that would be huge.

[BigFratDaddy]

Originally Posted by MrWho

uhh...there's a diff if its a sport where alot use it, then you cant really say anything about anyone using it ie like baseball or maybe even football. But if it ever comes out that tiger juiced and prob would be him alone in golf..that would be huge.

while the percentages would be a lot less in golf, i doubt he's the only one.

it wouldnt have the same advantage for a golfer as it would a baseball player anyways so its a moot point to me my friend.

thats why i could careless in this case as well.

[GFootsXtreme]

Tiger exercises and practices golf for 6-10 hours per day, every day. He has all the money in the world to buy the best trainers, he carefully watches what he eats and has a set of rituals about getting to bed and how he travels.

Everything is "optimized" for this guy. Now, I have followed him since his very first tournament, and there is no doubt he is WAY bulky and to the edge of what I think is possible without performance enhancement.

His distance has not gone up though since he got bigger. He peaked early in his career and now has a blend of distance and control, and you hear about him hitting a 5-wood now...he never hit that in years past.

The comment made earlier that he would have been caught...um MLB baseball? Maybe some people knew, but 99% of the world was surprised to find out all these players cheated. Call it willfull ignorance if you want.

I don't think he would risk it and also don't think he needs it. He has the time money and focus to maximize his natural potential and I'm sure is using every single substance available that is not an outright illegal steroid.

So if the issue is did he use "illegal" drugs, I say no, but did he use everything possible up to that edge including things that may become illegal but are/were not at the time? of course, and i would too

[The Frozen Pond]

Originally Posted by PurpleMaddy

As a personal trainer I can tell you one thing. When Tiger broke into the golf scene he was a skinny rake, he wore baggy t-shirts and his pants hung off his ass. At the age of 25 your body goes into a slow down mode, meaning that not matter how hard you try (working out) you will not build mass. The only other way to build mass is to take steroids. Take a look at Tiger when he came onto the scene and right up until about 5 years ago. There is definately a transformation there.

Think about it: Tiger religiously practices his golf swing. Does practicing a golf swing produce a middle linebacker body? Compare his body from a few years ago to Barry Bonds - pre steroids: identical transformation. I've been in the gym for many years and have known people who are on the juice. A lot of high-achieving lifters bodies look wimpy compared to Tiger's. It's juice, people!

Woods should be tested by the PGA and the USGA. If it is found that he has used substances which are not permitted according to the rules of those governing bodies, he should be stripped of his championships. To do anything else would be to the detriment of the so-called "integrity" of the game that we hear golf's ruling elitists constantly uphold as the standard for other sports to try to achieve. Let the truth be brought out and put an end to all the speculation one way or another.

Originally Posted by dave nz

I respectfully disagree completely with your first paragraph.

I'll go ahead and respectfully disagree with the other two paragraphs, in addition to the first one.

WAY to big of a story for someone to pass on outing him. If there was anything to it someone would have talked.

He's been supportive of testing on the PGA Tour for a while now too.


http://golf.fanhouse.com/2010/02/23/...g-tests-clean/

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/14505739/

[tigerman19]

you would have thought if he was chasin ass he would have done a better job covering his tracks, but do you really think if he was juicing he is the one going to the dealer to buy??? the idea of him being "outed" is stupid. there is a runner.

yes he is juicing. use common sense and look at him. the fact that over a 4-day tourney he is always the lone man standing is not just about his golfing ability.

[The Frozen Pond]

Originally Posted by tigerman19

you would have thought if he was chasin ass he would have done a better job covering his tracks, but do you really think if he was juicing he is the one going to the dealer to buy??? the idea of him being "outed" is stupid. there is a runner.

yes he is juicing. use common sense and look at him. the fact that over a 4-day tourney he is always the lone man standing is not just about his golfing ability.

lol

Why would he ask for the tests himself then?

And the fact that he's the best player ever might have something to do with your last man standing theory.

[Sammy the Goose]