Tiger vs Rory

[upinya83]

I know there's other threads on this, but wanted to give my 2 cents.

Ridiculous to compare the two at this point, I'm sick of hearing it all over ESPN and reading it online. There is no comparison as of now. I loved watching Rory this past weekend, but was not close to what Tiger did at Pebble Beach.

Maybe Rory can string some wins and majors together, then we can start comparing him to some good golfers who got off to good starts when they were young. How many guys have we crowned the next great when winning their first major, only to never win another again, or get to 2 or 3. Not saying that's bad, 2 or 3 majors in a career makes you a great golfer, but it doesn't make you Tiger Woods.

The only stat I've heard this weekend that matters is this:
The US Open was Rory's 100th tourney and his 3rd win. Tiger had 28 wins through 100 tourneys. The comparison of the 2 at this point is absurd.

[Victor]

Thank you upinya83! You took the words right out of my mouth!

[mikkii10]

do agree he does need alot more wins and i do stress alot more wins to be even close too tiger woods. but lets face it golf right now needs a boast

[bigsportsguy2006]

agreed. 100% .. as i said in that other thread, to compare what they did at the US Open is absurd, let alone comparing the 2 men overall.

[Patriots Game]

I too agree if u didn't know. What is also absurd, is this thread not in the golf form lol.

[upinya83]

Originally Posted by Patriots Game

What is also absurd, is this thread not in the golf form lol.

"Main Street Gambling forums, online sportsbooks, players talk, sports talk, offshore betting, poker, off-topic, etc!"

The individual sports forums are more for pick threads. Main Street was designed more for sports discussions so they don't get lost among all the pick threads. And so more people can debate it and see it. Like me for example, I don't bet on golf so I usually don't go to the golf forum to look for picks. I do like to discuss it though and Main St is a good place to do that

Everyone should feel free to post more sports discussion threads in Main St - that's what it's for!

[Patriots Game]

Sure. But it would help the golf forum.

[grzftbl]

I also heard on ESPN, or maybe the Golf Channel, that Rory, "Has been working his whole life for this (Major win)".

The kid is 22 years old.


P.S. I was hoping for a meltdown like The Masters.

[BritneysBestBets]

Way to early for sure with the 'Tiger' comparisons. The kid is an awesome golfer, but let him get a few more credentials under his belt first.

[bigbuck]

Ernie Els has won 3 majors (his first at 24). Phil has won 4 majors. Seve won 5 majors. Faldo and Trevino six and Watson 8.
So he has the potential of somewhere 4 and up to 8 at the max in my opinion.
Talented but it takes a lot of fire in the belly to be motivated a long time and at 5-9 not sure his body holds up. and winning majors is a grind. Very few are blowouts. it comes down to the back 9 on sunday and playing clutch under pressure in a close match. In two of rory's victorys he had a big lead and the other he come charging from behind after barely making the cut and blowing by the field. There's many types of winning and he has to show he has the killer instinct to grind out majors and not have awesome performances like he did last week. How often have we seen Tiger do that with Rocco, Bob May and many others over the years where he willed himself to victory. The two types of wins aren't comparable. One is talent and the other is a deep drive. That's why I'm higher on Kaymer winning more despite being four years older. You can't see it on the outside, but the German has the assassin type mentality to win big tourneys more than anyone even though Rory has more talent and will win more money.

And we haven't started talking about Italian teenager Matteo Manassero. That kid has the hands and mind already. he just lacks the length that maybe can come as his body fills out in the next three to four years. I'm more impressed with him than Rory. Championship golf is about the short game and Matteo's got a great one and recently beat Rory in Malaysia

And I know DaveNZ can give his insights of some of the Asian players like Noh and Ryo have have unlimited potential being younger than Rory. There's a lot of great young players coming up and the competition among them will be stiff and fun to watch. We have Tiger to thank for that. He made these kids think they can achieve something in golf.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matteo_Manassero

[Wabash Wonders]

Originally Posted by bigbuck

Ernie Els has won 3 majors (his first at 24). Phil has won 4 majors. Seve won 5 majors. Faldo and Trevino six and Watson 8.
So he has the potential of somewhere 4 and up to 8 at the max in my opinion.
Talented but it takes a lot of fire in the belly to be motivated a long time and at 5-9 not sure his body holds up. and winning majors is a grind. Very few are blowouts. it comes down to the back 9 on sunday and playing clutch under pressure in a close match. In two of rory's victorys he had a big lead and the other he come charging from behind after barely making the cut and blowing by the field. There's many types of winning and he has to show he has the killer instinct to grind out majors and not have awesome performances like he did last week. How often have we seen Tiger do that with Rocco, Bob May and many others over the years where he willed himself to victory. The two types of wins aren't comparable. One is talent and the other is a deep drive. That's why I'm higher on Kaymer winning more despite being four years older. You can't see it on the outside, but the German has the assassin type mentality to win big tourneys more than anyone even though Rory has more talent and will win more money.

And we haven't started talking about Italian teenager Matteo Manassero. That kid has the hands and mind already. he just lacks the length that maybe can come as his body fills out in the next three to four years. I'm more impressed with him than Rory. Championship golf is about the short game and Matteo's got a great one and recently beat Rory in Malaysia

And I know DaveNZ can give his insights of some of the Asian players like Noh and Ryo have have unlimited potential being younger than Rory. There's a lot of great young players coming up and the competition among them will be stiff and fun to watch. We have Tiger to thank for that. He made these kids think they can achieve something in golf.
Matteo Manassero - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is an Australian named Jason Day who isn't too bad either...

but I also agree with Upinya's opinion 100%...

[ksturg]

Agree that Rory is no Tiger. Only thing I will disagree with is the first 100 tournaments comparison. Rory turned pro when he was 18, Tiger didn't until he was 21. In my opinion those are 3 very important years in a learning golfers life. I would like to see the comparison for the next 100 tournaments for Rory if you want to draw that comparison, with that said he still won't stack up to what Tiger accomplished.

Still, I wouldn't bet against him. His record over majors the last 3 years is superb, and the swing is a thing of beauty.

[satchel27]

Something to think about also is that one bad round in unbelievable conditions at the British last year and a back nine at Augusta which can only be described as the ultimate melt down and he could very easily have 3 majors already.

For those who have played competetive sports, when the nerves kick in and get the better of you, it is almost impossible to get it back to some type of normalcy. Point being, Rory's 10th hole at Augusta is when it began and he could not get it back because the nerves become more and more powerful. I truly believe if he would have had a pure tee shot or pure approach on 10 he would have overcome those nerves. But obviously he didn't. Tiger did this like no other.

At the British, I don't think it was a question of nerves, but the fact that he let an off day get away from him in horrible conditions. Experience would have enabled him to put a 75 together rather than slip into an 80.

All the above has given him nothing but good, tough to swallow experience, that some guys might not overcome because the thoughts may creep back in. He showed me alot in the US Open in going out and taking care of business, all the while being 22.

In no way am I comparing him to Tiger, but you have seen and heard all over sports for years about the "it" factor, and I think he has got it.

Forgot to mention (even though I haven't looked it up, too lazy) and I may be wrong here, but I think he missed the playoff at the PGA Championship last year by one shot? Again, might be wrong if someone wants to confirm.

[Big Pimpin]

TV completely ruined the final round with all the Tiger this and that talk....so sick of hearing about that fuking pos.

god forbid if they couldnt leave it alone for 5 sec.