Where is these guys getting these % from??

[billyp1106]

long time better here, so im wondering where people are getting these % from..i seen one post saying public was on 80% pats?...where they looking at these at?

bill

[The Judge]

Don't buy into the hype, Billy. Those numbers are garbage.

[Seanie Mac]

i run and operate 3 of the sponsors here, that # is bogus

[Trossi3389]

i have 74% on n.e... Flexing a$$ cheeks..

[ttko]

i saw 76% at one site. doesn't seem that lopsided to me. i mean...i wouldn't put much faith in those numbers, but i will say that i think the avg nfl joe would think new england will cover this game. i think it's fair to say that the patriots have been more reliable in general over the past few years than the vikings. i know that really doesn't have much to do with tonight's game, but it probably means enough to the casual bettor. so what does this all mean? probably nothing. i think it's just another overanalyzed monday night game.


take it easy

[yungmune]

%75 percent on the money line.

[sportsfan]

sportsinsights is a free one, wagerline is one but those are contest picks not real $$$ picks. There are a few others but they do not have free features so I haven't tried them.

I used to fade the heavy public favs in NBA exclusively but quickly found this is not a money making proposition in itself. I still glance at SI occasionally though. I find myself not believing their #'s sometimes but you cannot completely discredit them. Many gamblers use these and pretending they don't exist is just being short-sighted IMO.

[The Judge]

Originally Posted by sportsfan

Many gamblers use these and pretending they don't exist is just being short-sighted IMO.

I strongly disagree. In my opinon, there is no substitute for traditional handicapping which requires breaking down the strengths and weaknesses of the opposing teams. There really is no point in reviewing the skewed numbers that these sites put up as there is no basis for comparison.

Ask yourself these questions:

Who are the bettors that have supposedly wagered on the game you are looking at?

Are the numbers "offered" by these sites you are using based on the number of wagers or the amount of money wagered?

If you had hadicapped this game prior to seeing the line, what side would you have been on and why would your opinion be affected because of the percentages that you are looking at?

What makes you believe that any book would actually share this information to be published on the World Wide Web?

Finally, why do you have such low faith in your own handicapping ability to allow these numbers to have an effect in your decision on which way you choose to bet a game?

I wish everyone the best of luck in your gambling investments.

[cman]

Judge is ten times the handicaper that I am...I cannot tell you the head coaches or the players for most of the games I bet...

but I am pretty consistent as a winner as well...and I do use betting percentages and key numbers

Good luck

wde

[dave nz]

Originally Posted by The Judge

I strongly disagree. In my opinon, there is no substitute for traditional handicapping which requires breaking down the strengths and weaknesses of the opposing teams. There really is no point in reviewing the skewed numbers that these sites put up as there is no basis for comparison.

Ask yourself these questions:

Who are the bettors that have supposedly wagered on the game you are looking at?

Are the numbers "offered" by these sites you are using based on the number of wagers or the amount of money wagered?

If you had hadicapped this game prior to seeing the line, what side would you have been on and why would your opinion be affected because of the percentages that you are looking at?

What makes you believe that any book would actually share this information to be published on the World Wide Web?

Finally, why do you have such low faith in your own handicapping ability to allow these numbers to have an effect in your decision on which way you choose to bet a game?

I wish everyone the best of luck in your gambling investments.

This is an interesting debate Gregg. I will say something here :

For a period of about 2 years I got both money and betting number % info from an actual book, a large one with a large client base. I know the Bookmaker personally and he would have no reason to give me false info.

Anyway for various times in those two years I would compare his info with the cumlative consensus of a few of the sites that give free numbers on the net. I will say this....it matched pretty similar most of the time


I actually dis-continued getting it off him not so much because so I could rely on the free sites, but because I wanted to be more independant and not rely on him for the info or give him that hassle. I can pretty much predict where the money is without seeing any sites now anyway.

But based largely on this I don't think certain free sites are too far off the mark. JMO.