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Old 09-15-2017, 05:32 PM
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Old 09-15-2017, 05:35 PM
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Wow that sucks Sharp, Natty & Wayne. Not paying debts is the worst thing ever. Hope he pays!

I always assumed he bet one less zero than posted here. Like seriously, he would be down 40k in bases and still be pounding out over 1k in bets every day. but a lot of people here and other various pizza parlour owners seem to do that, embellish their limits, and I just figured it was funny but no big deal and quite common.

Why would he get so pissed during in-games if he was betting a 1/10th of what he was posting as Sharp claims? He would fight to the death with you on a RG3>Cousins chat during a Skins in-game, but if he only had $25 on it like me, why get so pissed! lol.

We've had our ups and downs, like he has had with probably everyone it seems, but he does bring a lot to this site tho, so it sucks to hear.
Yet when I call them out, I get shit upon by a certain mod, site is getting to be real leftist, liberal, easily offended, yadayadayada
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but he has ALWAYS been an honorable guy with me.
Care to add some context to this?

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Old 09-15-2017, 05:36 PM
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Yet when I call them out, I get shit upon by a certain mod, site is getting to be real leftist, liberal, easily offended, yadayadayada
Looks like ur the one offended, no?

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Old 09-15-2017, 05:37 PM
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Yet when I call them out, I get shit upon by a certain mod, site is getting to be real leftist, liberal, easily offended, yadayadayada
I find this offensive
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Old 09-15-2017, 05:38 PM
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I know Dr Jack feels sick to his stomach over this. He feels really, really, bad for Natty and Sharp and he tried to reach out to mhp too. I also know that he is hoping it isn't a bad reflection on him or his website. I, and I am sure others have told him not to worry or feel that way. This was done by willing participants off the site and only one guy should feel guilty about how it ended. I hope Jack doesn't mind me saying this but I know the whole thing really bothers him.

He was given a lot of time and a lot of chances to make an effort and even make small payments or do something and he disappointed time and time again. This thread never would have happened if he made any effort at all for those guys.
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Old 09-15-2017, 05:42 PM
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Care to add some context to this?

In all my dealings with him. Personal. Financial. Has always done what he said he would do. Again, not doubting the posters in this thread, just relating my own experiences.
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Old 09-15-2017, 05:45 PM
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Yet when I call them out, I get shit upon by a certain mod, site is getting to be real leftist, liberal, easily offended, yadayadayada
Been to the political section in the last 18 months?
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In all my dealings with him. Personal. Financial. Has always done what he said he would do. Again, not doubting the posters in this thread, just relating my own experiences.
Without divulging details what kind of finances are we talking here. These aren't life changing amounts owed to these posters and hes chosen the ignore and walk away path.

I believe you Keith just trying to see if we are comparing apples to apples. Hes not coming across as an honorable person here.

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Old 09-15-2017, 05:49 PM
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Without divulging details what kind of finances are we talking here. These aren't life changing amounts owed to these posters and hes chosen the ignore and walk away path.

I believe you Keith just trying to see if we are comparing apples to apples.

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Not much to say "without divulging details." Certainly this is an unfortunate situation. Let's just leave it at that.
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Old 09-15-2017, 05:51 PM
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Not much to say "without divulging details." Certainly this is an unfortunate situation. Let's just leave it at that.
He owed you 5k and paid? Thats roughly what he owes here. I'm not asking why or how. Anyways if thats what you wanna leave it at thats fine too.

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Old 09-15-2017, 05:53 PM
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He owed you 5k and paid? Thats roughly what he owes here. I'm not asking why or how. Anyways if thats what you wanna leave it at thats fine too.

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No, he did not owe me $5K. Not trying to be critical of anyone here, but can't imagine why people would give someone who they only "know" over the internet, that kind of credit.
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Old 09-15-2017, 06:01 PM
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Looks like ur the one offended, no?

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Not at all man, just anything I say to the suspect posts,you are right there trying to protect some of these idiots. yet you can tell a poster to "stop" publicly (instead of PMing them and requesting they stop or suggesting they will be put on post review if they continue with their outlandish posts).

Offended? no! slightly paranoid?? probly.
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Old 09-15-2017, 06:06 PM
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No, he did not owe me $5K. Not trying to be critical of anyone here, but can't imagine why people would give someone who they only "know" over the internet, that kind of credit.
Keith, He owed me $50 and he said twice he would send it and never did. He couldn't even pay that. I think you are more concerned with the # than the actual problem. Looking back, I am sure they would have done things differently but when you have known a guy on here for years that posts morning noon and night, you build up a little confidence in him. You also see him scoring the book and many contests AND entering every contest on the site. I do not think it was wrong on their part for assuming he would pay up.
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Old 09-15-2017, 06:48 PM
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No, he did not owe me $5K. Not trying to be critical of anyone here, but can't imagine why people would give someone who they only "know" over the internet, that kind of credit.
Especially since I believe there had been previous problems.
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Old 09-15-2017, 06:56 PM
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First of all, I tried everything I could to not make it public. But in the end it was so someone else did not become a creditor.

He told me his local was no longer in business. He wanted to get some more $ down on the Wizards. He asked if I had a local to run it thru, I said yea, but I hold alot now, and I was upside down on Boston and would even out my book some. He lost, no biggy, $300. Have had him pay off multiple bets before to me and others on here.

Next day he texts me and wants to know if I am going to hit and run him, or let him try to get it back in bases. I said sure. He starts firing like no ones business. He goes up a few hundred. I text him and tell him I was not looking to book him, baseball is not big for me book wise. But if he wanted to keep going I would, but $500 max per bet, $3k either way we settle up. Needless to say, withing two weeks he got to 4K then stopped.

He told me he would settle up the next week. That comes and goes.

I touch base with him, and he says next week, and some story.

A month goes by, do not hear a word from him. I reach out, and we agree to payment plan, and gave him a month grace before he started to pay. The month passes, I give it some more time. Reach out to him again. ANother story about waiting on baseball cards to sell , then I would get it.

Another month goes by, reach out again. Another story. Now he is posting on twitter his baseball cards he just pulled.

I tried some other channels to help. Before it went public. Thought that would help. I would have been happy with a 50 a month never never plan. But it was stall after stall and lie after lie. Not just to me.

The only reason I am talking about it here, is I know he has contact with quite a few people, and would hate for someone to run bets for him thru their local, and be left holding the bill.

Completely on me the 4K, I extended the credit, I knew the risk. But I can honestly say it is the first time someone has stiffed me without ever paying a penny. Hell at one point he asked if we could forget the whole thing.

If he would have won, he would have expected to be paid, and I would have. I feel like he tried to take a shot at my $$$. He lost. I was more than fair giving it almost 4 months, touching base once a month. All I got was lies and BS.

I like the guy. Always been cool to me and my kids. But to stiff me out of 4K, never even attempt to make a payment. Give me line after line. Stiff wayne. Stiff Sharp. Just a plague on CM at this point.

Bottom line is, this one is on me, but hopefully he makes it right, which I doubt will happen even before this thread. But now anyone else from CM taking his action knows the extra risk and his history going into it.
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Old 09-15-2017, 06:58 PM
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That's the intention of this thread Mark.

Most of my bets with HP were out in the open. No one warned be about any shit that happened in the past.

Yeah, it's my fault for trusting someone on the net, so I take blame as I said, but hopefully this thread gets enough eyes and no one let's it happen again.
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Old 09-15-2017, 08:17 PM
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lol, you're kidding right? This sites non sports chatter from regulars is so right-wing conservative I think I miss-typed Breibart or Foxnews sometimes
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Old 09-15-2017, 08:38 PM
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This all sucks, and hate to hear this happened to two good guys like Natty and Sharp. But the strangest thing to me is that Hots is still coming in to post at a site where he knows he stiffed people, and simply grade wagers in one specific area ? huh?
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Old 09-15-2017, 08:45 PM
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Old 09-15-2017, 09:19 PM
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lol, you're kidding right? This sites non sports chatter from regulars is so right-wing conservative I think I miss-typed Breibart or Foxnews sometimes
My comment was not meant to be political in intent/content, more of an observation of how posters react to criticism whether implied or intended.
MHP was/is one of the worst, your own interactions with him in the ingames were golden, watching his replies to some misinterpretation of something you posted.
ST was another he would get all defensive with, along with myself.

But my point is, there are quite a few that jump to the wrong conclusion/read of a post and either they get defensive or a mod jumps in and shuts it down.
Very typical left/liberal behavior (hypocritical as well).
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:03 PM
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:09 PM
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Wow this is really unfortunate to read about. You'd always like to think that things will all work out. One thing I noticed, and it is trivial and probably irrelevant, but all posters are some serious veterans of this hallowed site. Like family, almost every on 10,12,14 years contributing to this one website. If I was Dr. Jack, it would make me proud to have built something that people choose as part of their lives for such a long time.

I'm not masking the real issue of this thread, just stating how incredible it is to see such a show of truly great contributors in one thread,no matter the content.

I hope there is a resolution in the near future.

cheers, Coop
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:31 PM
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Maybe he is waiting for the Gary Sanchez and Aaron Judge rookies to take off so he'll have money to pay up??? lol

Just wow in this thread...
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:45 PM
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All I can say is you NEVER stiff a gambling bet. That's Honor, Rep and say's a lot of what type of person you are. Now I don't know how old he is and obviously he's a chaser to lose that kind of money that fast and I say that because we all have been there at some point in our lives but you don't stiff anyone you talk to them like a man and make arrangements to pay no matter how small or for how long you pay. So to the guys who are saying that's he's a nice guy and this and that he's not plain and simple. He's a deadbeat. I don't know him from Adam but you jacked yourself up for 4k/5k make arrangements. pay one guy off at a time or whatever's best for you.
If any of the people that know him feel insulted That's the way I feel because that's the way I was raised.
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