The Winner's Edge System

[nrc85]

- If anyone is familiar with the Labouchere system in reverse, do you recognize The Winner's edge system, which is a variant of the Labouchere system? It is explained, but not very clearly, just wondering if someone has ever heard of it and knows how to use it.

The Labouchere System in Reverse: (Submitted by a visitor)

Add winnings to the sequence instead of losses. If you win, add one number (the winning units) to the end of the series. If you lose, delete two outside numbers. Put an appropriate target of, say, 20 units profit for 'even money' bets (less for higher odds), and when reached begin another sequence. Sequence commencement is 1,2,3,4 so you risk only 10 units per sequence.

The Labouchere System in Reverse is a positive progression betting system.

The Winner's Edge System - A variant of the Labouchere System in Reverse: (Submitted by a visitor)

(Note: The description of the system is reproduced below the exact way it was submitted, word for word. The idea behind this system seems to make a lot of sense. However, the betting procedure and the amounts involved are not clear. If anyone can help in clarifying this, it will be greatly appreciated.)

"This is one invited by a Canadian many years ago. It is like the Cancellation System above with this variation: When winning, ( add the first and last number in the sequence ), the first time, and then 3 numbers until you lose. If you lose, add that to the end of the sequence and bet only the first(only one) number not crossed off. If you lose again, go to betting the unit bet, to preserve capital. I have found one needs about 40 times the first number in the sequence when starting as a bankroll , with the initial numbers being about 40-20-20-20 % (ie $50. sequence would be written: $20-10-10-10.)Your bankroll taken to the table will be $1000.00.This means, I've found that you only have to win 30% of the time to be successful! I have used this very successfully in the casinos, to the point that I was asked to leave the table several times, as the casinos dont want consistent winners. It scares them. This system requires nerve, fearlessness and an appropriate bank roll. WHen playing Baccarrat, I was winning $4000. an hour , but again, don't back off pushing the money out, or you will lose. The system really forces one to bet large when winning and small when losing, which is exactly the opposite of what most people do- and what the casino expects.YOu also need high enough table limits . It can be used playing blackjack, baccarrat or roulette, but is best for blackjack. Make sure you get their OK to write the bets down before you start, and tell them you are not counting cards."

[TheLink]

Originally Posted by nrc85

[B]- Make sure you get their OK to write the bets down before you start, and tell them you are not counting cards." [/I]

lol. if you have to write your bets down to remember what they will be why bother with the system.

[ZoomVT]

Don't get it. Can you do an example run?

1st bet
2nd bet
Etc

[scr0da]

Ya i'd memorize but, i'm interested for blackjack. Where can I get more info>

[TheLink]

know someone who uses this. my understand of it is the following:

1-1-1-1 (these numbers represent units)

1st bet: 2
win 2nd bet: 3
win 3rd bet: 4
win 4th bet:5
if win believe you stay at this number until you lose, once lose go back to 2, lose again go to 1 until you win then repeat process climbing ladder until you lose.

1st bet: 2
if win 2nd bet : 3
if lose 3rd bet:2
if lose 4th bet: 1
if win 5th bet: 2

really shouldn't be hard to remember if looked at as units. progression will all depend on number of units you start in your number (i.e. 2-2-2-2 will multiply at twice the rate of example)

[nrc85]

I looked all over the internet for a better understanding of the Winners Edge system, but only found the same explanation over and over again with no clearer details. The Labouchere system in reverse is easy enough to figure out, just wondering the exact way to use the Winners Edge. I tried to figure it out, I've kind of got a grasp on it, just not sure on some things:

So you have $1000. Your goal is to win 5-Units, he says your bankroll should be about 40 times the first number in your sequence. It is indicated that your sequence should be 40%-20%-20%-20% of $50... which would be $20-10$-$10-$10, or 2-1-1-1.

2-1-1-1-3


Bet #1 = 2 + 1 = 3 units ( If you won you would put 3-units at end of sequence.)

Bet # 2 = This is where I am stuck, he says add the first and last number the first time, which we did, then add 3 numbers after that until you lose, so I wonder which 3 numbers do we add, I was assuming First and Last again plus maybe the lowest in the sequence? If you happened to lose, would you cross out those 3 numbers and put the total you should have won at the end of the sequence. He says after you lose, go to betting the first number not crossed out, I am a little confused on this... do you cross that number out if you lose and put it at the end of the sequence, and if you win, do you put the winning unit at the end of the sequence, then add first and last again?

[nrc85]

Originally Posted by TheLink

know someone who uses this. my understand of it is the following:

1-1-1-1 (these numbers represent units)

1st bet: 2
win 2nd bet: 3
win 3rd bet: 4
win 4th bet:5
if win believe you stay at this number until you lose, once lose go back to 2, lose again go to 1 until you win then repeat process climbing ladder until you lose.

1st bet: 2
if win 2nd bet : 3
if lose 3rd bet:2
if lose 4th bet: 1
if win 5th bet: 2

really shouldn't be hard to remember if looked at as units. progression will all depend on number of units you start in your number (i.e. 2-2-2-2 will multiply at twice the rate of example)

Are you explaining the Winners Edge System here?

[nrc85]

Originally Posted by nrc85

I looked all over the internet for a better understanding of the Winners Edge system, but only found the same explanation over and over again with no clearer details. The Labouchere system in reverse is easy enough to figure out, just wondering the exact way to use the Winners Edge. I tried to figure it out, I've kind of got a grasp on it, just not sure on some things:

So you have $1000. Your goal is to win 5-Units, he says your bankroll should be about 40 times the first number in your sequence. It is indicated that your sequence should be 40%-20%-20%-20% of $50... which would be $20-10$-$10-$10, or 2-1-1-1.

2-1-1-1-3


Bet #1 = 2 + 1 = 3 units ( If you won you would put 3-units at end of sequence.)

Bet # 2 = This is where I am stuck, he says add the first and last number the first time, which we did, then add 3 numbers after that until you lose, so I wonder which 3 numbers do we add, I was assuming First and Last again plus maybe the lowest in the sequence? If you happened to lose, would you cross out those 3 numbers and put the total you should have won at the end of the sequence. He says after you lose, go to betting the first number not crossed out, I am a little confused on this... do you cross that number out if you lose and put it at the end of the sequence, and if you win, do you put the winning unit at the end of the sequence, then add first and last again?

I guess if you won the first bet, you wouldn't put the 3-units at the end of the sequence, you would just cross off the 2 and 1, then bet #2 would be 1+1=2, if you won, you would start the sequence over, because you already won the 5-units, now if you lost bet # 1, that's when you would be the 3 at the end of the sequence. Then you would bet the first number not crossed off.

[GFootsXtreme]

Varying your bet size cannot change your odds of winning. One spin has nothing to do with the next and the wheel doesn't know or care how much you bet or how long you play. No easy way to win

[FalconFreak]

Bsg?