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Discussion: FIP vs ERA
There was an interersting article, at Fangraphs, on the comparison between FIP and ERA, stemming from an assessment of Trevor Cahill's Cy Young prospects. He's among the league leaders in WHIP and ERA, is on pace for 18-20 wins, and has pitched extremely well lately, all have shaped his case as a legit Cy Young contender.
But his FIP is ranked 31st in the AL, 4.07, and that ERA to FIP discrepancy is owing in large part to his absurdly low .217 BABIP. Though the argument is, which is a better indicator of prior performance, FIP or one's actual ERA? There have been plenty of studies to suggest a pitcher's current FIP is a more precise indicator of future performance. And if you are afforded the luxury of having access to a retrosheet database, just run a regression of the two variables onto year end ERA, and the results are overly supportive of FIP being a better predictor of future ERA. Here is the article FanGraphs Stats and the Cy Young Award Quote:
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Good question. I really only find statistics valuable is they can be used in a predictive fashion. For example, there isn't really such a thing as "hot" and "cold" hitters. If you randomly pick a hitter in the middle of a "cold streak" how would you expect his OBA to look in the next at bat? If you said his average OBA (adjusted for opposing pitcher), you'd be correct. The issue of "clutch" is a bit more hazy, but I generally believe that if I am a manager and it's the bottom of the 9th with 2 outs, bases loaded, down by 1 - I want my best hitter up, not my most "clutch".
Anyway, what this means is that "hot and cold" or "clutch" are more than likely just statistical fluctuations - also known as luck. I know the Cy Young is supposed to reward the pitcher who performed the best over the course of the season. But ERA and W-L record figures luck into the equation a lot more than FIP does and I don't think the Cy Young should be given to the "luckiest pitcher", but instead the best. |
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