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Facebook stock

After a rough start it has been doing really well.

What is the ceiling?
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:50 AM
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Hey experts - what number would you sell out on?

I bought most of my FB stock at like $36. I originally bought it and was going to just leave it alone. I have spoke to some people who think $80 is the number. I originally though 50$ would be the number.

What is the magic number?
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:53 AM
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Old 03-03-2014, 12:14 PM
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Really hard to put a valuation on this thing because it trades so much off potential ad revenue especially mobile advertising. I've looked at a couple sources I use and they consider it pretty fully valued at this point. The current P/E is over 80

It would really depend on the circumstances what I would do with it although I wouldn't stick with a firm number you want to get out at. I would base the decision in terms of your portfolio and tax implications, etc.
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Old 03-03-2014, 02:25 PM
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It will keep growing in my opinion. I believe Google, Facebook, and Apple are three stocks that will just continue to grow and grow and grow probably for the next 5 to 10 years.

In other words, hold your stock unless you need access to the funds sooner.
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Old 03-03-2014, 02:40 PM
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Facebook is nothing close to Apple or Google. Those two have proven revenue streams and a diverse product offering. Facebook is trading on potential advertising growth in their mobile area against a declining user base.

I would also hold it until the chart starts to break down or it is an oversized position in the portfolio
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Old 03-03-2014, 03:47 PM
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Facebook is nothing close to Apple or Google. Those two have proven revenue streams and a diverse product offering. Facebook is trading on potential advertising growth in their mobile area against a declining user base.

I would also hold it until the chart starts to break down or it is an oversized position in the portfolio
Rjb said it all. Don't hold yourself to a number, and you have already about doubled. I would think about letting go soon.
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Facebook is at the end of their life cycle. Remember My Space. Twitter has already come along, and its about time for Gen X to latch onto another upstart social media site. They have less of an attention span the Hotpicks.
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Old 03-03-2014, 08:17 PM
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Facebook's future revenue stream is questionable. Hard to compare it to Apple because Apple has a line of products to increase revenues. If you want to play it safe cash out of FB now and take the doubling of your investment. If you want to gamble with it, sell half and let the remaining half ride. At least you've gotten your initial investment back.
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Hey experts - what number would you sell out on?

I bought most of my FB stock at like $36. I originally bought it and was going to just leave it alone. I have spoke to some people who think $80 is the number. I originally though 50$ would be the number.

What is the magic number?
Bought it September or October 2012, can't remember exactly, but it was 22 and some change. Put in a sell with my advisor at 67 but only 1/3. Got money back and still up almost 200% (before today ). Watching closely as I feel FB might be on the downward cycle as far as users, but that doesn't mean downward on stock price! FB has lost 20- 25% of its users, mostly teenage and college students over the past year but the stock has continued to rise at a great level for stockholders! Very confusing, I will buy out probably if it gets down to mid 40's, but will hang on till then.
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Old 03-04-2014, 02:34 PM
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Bought it September or October 2012, can't remember exactly, but it was 22 and some change. Put in a sell with my advisor at 67 but only 1/3. Got money back and still up almost 200% (before today ). Watching closely as I feel FB might be on the downward cycle as far as users, but that doesn't mean downward on stock price! FB has lost 20- 25% of its users, mostly teenage and college students over the past year but the stock has continued to rise at a great level for stockholders! Very confusing, I will buy out probably if it gets down to mid 40's, but will hang on till then.
This is what makes the market great is the deviation of the price of an asset from it's fundamental value which creates buying and selling opportunities.

It is well above it's 200 day line but if it got back down into the 50's without a significant market pullback I would entertain selling
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Can someone explain why they paid 19 billion for WhatsApp? Just sounds insane to me.
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:11 AM
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Can someone explain why they paid 19 billion for WhatsApp? Just sounds insane to me.
Ill make it simple....

350 million WhatsApp Users = $19billion dollars.

On average, for every 20 Million Users you have reach to it equates to 1 Billion Dollars on Average. So technically, facebook got a little bit of a discount here.

Yall might think I am crazy, but look up all the latest buyouts of companies like this and the number of unique users each had. If Jack was able to get 20 million users on Cappersmall, then he could sell it for 1billion.

It's marketing in todays society and the most measurable unit out there. So go out there, create a site that you know will get 20 Million Unique Visitors so that you can sell advertising to them, then flip it for 1 billion dollars.

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Old 03-05-2014, 11:21 AM
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Facebook is at the end of their life cycle. Remember My Space. Twitter has already come along, and its about time for Gen X to latch onto another upstart social media site. They have less of an attention span the Hotpicks.
I dont think you can compare Facebook to Myspace at all.

Myspace had 50 Million Users
Facebook has 1.3 Billion Users

Myspace is just piss in the wind to the reach that Facebook has for potential advertising opportunities.

Could be wrong, but I see Facebook lasting for a very long time. Simply cause Zuckerberg was extremely smart in waiting as long as possible to start generating revenue for the company. A lot of other companies like this rush to get visitors/users then go to turn a profit from it way to early. 1.3 Billion users arent just going to stop using tomorrow.
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:32 AM
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I dont think you can compare Facebook to Myspace at all.

Myspace had 50 Million Users
Facebook has 1.3 Billion Users

Myspace is just piss in the wind to the reach that Facebook has for potential advertising opportunities.

Could be wrong, but I see Facebook lasting for a very long time. Simply cause Zuckerberg was extremely smart in waiting as long as possible to start generating revenue for the company. A lot of other companies like this rush to get visitors/users then go to turn a profit from it way to early. 1.3 Billion users arent just going to stop using tomorrow.
MySpace lost its coolness because kids/teens saw parents joining.
It wasn't made for advertising either.

Amazing FaceBook was for older college kids until the same thing started happening. Zuckerberg knew older people are like sheep and will follow new technology, and with an increased site population.

MyVegas game, knowing people's birthdays, planning parties...........

Someone's gotta beat FaceBook in 1,000,000's of these little things that gets 1.3 billion people coming back.

I agree not happening anytime soon JD..................................
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Look for Facebook to extend its Messaging market presence. Think WeChat in China (~300 mil users). Agree with those that point to user numbers.

Consider this- Blackberry (who?) Messaging still has 85 mil users, and represents a noticeable market share.

Plus, all the kids (who seem to steer this industry) are hoping on snapchat. All anyone really wants to do is send pics of their little boy/little girl parts to each other.
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Jack did you do anything with it?
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Jack did you do anything with it?
I sold just a small amount at the time but not enough. Thing has steadily declined since. lol
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I sold just a small amount at the time but not enough. Thing has steadily declined since. lol
Jack I'll still go with my original comments in here and really hold your position on it. People are generally just freaking cause facebook spent a lot of money and general consensus is that they were bad ideas.

Unless Facebook revenues just complete tank out, which I can't believe they will they have so many advertising opportunities, the stick will get back up to 70 and more. Just be patient. Their biz model is strong.
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They have the # of users advertisers will pay $ to have access to. It's a simple concept. No one is remotely close to matching their reach for advertisers.

Unless the sales reps are totally incompetent, facebook is a very secure stock to own. LinkedIn is a great one too right now.

One outside of social media I would look into is Salesforce. Their assets are continually growing, they are growing their sales rep reach across country and starting to take big biz crm biz from Oracle.
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