Belmont 6/11 PP's for 1.3 mill carryover?

[Rhino8266]

If anyone has these I think we'd all be grateful. After the 36-1 bomb in the Belmont I think we all have a shot at getting lucky.

[Chris46139]

I haven't seen any PPs anywhere yet but here is Liftin's analysis:



By Dave Litfin

BEST BET: Dancing Tin Man (6th race)

First Race
1. Value Player 2. Cool Tales 3. M V P Grand
VALUE PLAYER is just 1 for 15 lifetime, with 10 other in-the-money finishes, but has run his three fastest races since returning as a 4-year-old; good try vs. multiple stakes winner Nite Light only start at Belmont last fall. COOL TALES removed blinkers and drew away for lengthy maiden score first time over this track; figures close if he maintains that form, has run well from inside post. M V P GRAND ships in off two-month layoff with a trainer change; much best winning in slop and over Polytrack, but stopped badly lone try conventional dirt.

Second Race
1. Another Hades 2. Wolfson 3. Western Call
ANOTHER HADES has run for $35K only once, when he finished well for second sprinting over this track last fall; two Beyer figures at this meet top this group by a wide margin, barn got Justin P to win a maiden race in 15th attempt last week. WOLFSON is the lone experienced runner who has never been in a maiden claimer before; $270K purchase has run virtually the same figures no matter the surface or distance. WESTERN CALL finished evenly when fourth vs. the top pick as the favorite last October; wide in return on turf, earning basically the same kind of figure he was running all last year.

Third Race
1. Winning Point 2. Windy 3. Scooter Girl
Though she has been away for 11 months since just missing in the Grade 2 Delaware Oaks, WINNING POINT began her career with three straight wins and has picked up the tempo in her most recent workouts for new trainer; among those she beat handily in Laurel allowance was Wow Me Free, now a stakes winner for this barn. WINDY is the only other entrant besides the choice to have recorded a triple-digit Beyer, and did it this track/distance last fall, with this rider; twice-beaten favorite in Grade 2 stakes has trained in promising fashion, scratched last week when track came up muddy. SCOOTER GIRL also makes her first start of the year; Calder invader can contend off her August '07 form.

Fourth Race
1. My Dinah 2. Love Co 3. La Mure
MY DINAH forced the pace to stretch of the Mount Vernon, and faded through final quarter as entrymate Them There Eyes swept past the field on the outside; has won two of three on dirt, the lone defeat chasing Northern Netti (3 for 3) in fast Bouwerie Stakes. LOVE CO had a useful comeback on turf chasing Raw Silk, who came back to win the Sands Point; last start on dirt - the Busher - turned out to be a very tough mid-winter stake that produced Ashland winner Little Belle and Black Eyed Susan winner Sweet Vendetta. LA MURE lacked room approaching stretch, finished well for place at 25-1 first time over this track; may rebound quickly for dangerous turf-to-dirt trainer.

Fifth Race
1. Hot Table 2. Flash of Victory 3. Kick Up Your Heels
HOT TABLE went well in return to New York, earning a new top figure, then had a difficult task attempting to close into a very slow pace as the favorite; slight edge. FLASH OF VICTORY is consistently in the money on any kind of footing, just missed at 4-5 when last in with restricted claimers second out this year; dangerous despite an outside post if able to draw in. KICK UP YOUR HEELS was three wide on both turns in same slow-paced race as the top pick May 24; ran well repeatedly at 1 1/8 miles last year, makes third start back from layoff.

Sixth Race
1. Dancing Tin Man 2. Stormy Mirage 3. Sumphin
DANCING TIN MAN comes off a last-to-first triumph vs. open $35K claimers in second start of the year, and earned a figure that matches his best numbers from two victories to close out '07; well spotted in starter allowance that is a significant drop in class. STORMY MIRAGE ran two improved races off a short layoff and trainer change in Florida; maiden win came at the expense of Find the Wire, who ran down 4-5 Champagne Squall to graduate in 1 1/4-mile maiden special here last week. SUMPHIN withstood long drive to win restricted claimer over Sly, who came back to win a first-level allowance off the claim; much-improved tactical speed on turf and dirt as a 4-year-old.

Seventh Race
1. Justinline 2. Myakka 3. Flying Sappho
JUSTINLINE comes off the two best races of her career on this course last month, in which she showed the ability to handle firm and yielding ground; stalker needed 13 tries to get through maiden ranks, but might be tough right back in favorable pace matchup. MYAKKA ran big first time on turf to hold second while beating 10 rivals by daylight; could be caught wide arguing the early fractions with LA RANSOM, KOUFAX CURVE and ZIP BY YOU. A hotly contested pace might open the door for a sleeper like FLYING SAPPHO to rally late for a share, as she did at 30-1 last summer at the Spa.

Eighth Race
1. Pennington 2. Cloud Nine 3. Forest of Dreams
PENNINGTON looked like a need-the-lead type on dirt, but has been a totally different horse since switched to the grass for two good finishes over firm and soft going; overcame a tough outside post drowning statebreds first time over this course, may handle open N1X types in present form. CLOUD NINE has also been on the improve since switched from the inner dirt to grass, while also handling firm and non-firm conditions; tough trip vs. odds-on Moral Compass in first try vs. winners. FOREST OF DREAMS won off-the-turf maiden sprint widening at every call in slop to begin 4YO season; drilled sharply June 2; moves up if race comes off the grass, but so would PLURACITY.

Ninth Race
1. Ten Forty 2. Golden Amulet 3. E Z Dollar
TEN FORTY returned from nearly 15 months on the sidelines, and set a rapid pace to wire maiden claimers at odds-on across town; been gone another 10 weeks, comes back in a realistic spot with first-time Lasix. GOLDEN AMULET has raced twice on wet tracks and been far back each time, so it may pay to simply draw a line through his last start; lone entrant never to have been risked previously in a claiming race, E Z DOLLAR turned in three improved Beyers when blinkers were added during the winter, notching maiden win and then chasing in a couple of fast sprints vs. much-the-best winners who came back to repeat; drilled sharply last week for return.

[Rhino8266]

Thanks for the info dude. You can get the whole pick 6 card with this link:
http://mysite.verizon.net/whobet/wedday.html not sure which race the pick 6 starts but, the only race they don't have is the 2nd.

[Chris46139]

Pick 6 prob starts in race 3 or 4, my guess would be races 4-9, usually how it works. Good luck on this Rhino, maybe one of us will get lucky

[Rhino8266]

I just found out it's just as you thought, races 4-9 are the pick 6. And it's gonna be a bitch. The carryover is starting at $1,186,625.88. This thing will get up to 4 million maybe more. And with all these hard ass turf races I wouldn't be surprised if it rolls over again. I'm glad you gave up those picks you have. They're good to go by with the analysis. Race 4 starts at approx 4:36 et so don't be late. Of course you know they hold it a little longer to get all the money. Good luck to you my friend. Let's stack some paper.

[WarranT]

i have the full card on my server

[Wabash Wonders]

Originally Posted by Rhino8266

I just found out it's just as you thought, races 4-9 are the pick 6. And it's gonna be a bitch. The carryover is starting at $1,186,625.88. This thing will get up to 4 million maybe more. And with all these hard ass turf races I wouldn't be surprised if it rolls over again. I'm glad you gave up those picks you have. They're good to go by with the analysis. Race 4 starts at approx 4:36 et so don't be late. Of course you know they hold it a little longer to get all the money. Good luck to you my friend. Let's stack some paper.

Race 4 starts at 2:36 est...

[Rhino8266]

Originally Posted by Wabash Wonders

Race 4 starts at 2:36 est...

lol sorry..thanks for the info.