Thurs: BELMONT & ARLINGTON

[VINCENZO]

Thurs. JULY 7th

BELMONT

1ST 2-3

2ND 1-2

3RD 6

4TH 1-6

5TH 2-6

6TH 3-4

7TH 5-6

8TH 4-5-6

9TH 1-2-6
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ARLINGTON

1ST 2-7

2ND NO BETS

3RD. 4

4TH 2-3

5TH 5-7

6TH 3-4

7TH 1

8TH NO BETS

9TH 10
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[Wabash Wonders]

good luck vincenzo...

[larryonion]

Good luck Vincenzo - We have a bunch of Arlington horses in common...

[larryonion]

Hey Vincenzo - I followed your picks today using my books live tote.
Here is what I wound up playing with your system:
Belmont:
Five Horses Played to Win - One Winner Race 6 #4 Factual Contender paid $18.40
Three exactas costing $12, $16, $24 - no winners
Arlington:
Two Horses Played to Win - One Winner Race 9 #10 Camptown King paid $12.40
Two exactas costing $8, $28 - no winners

Does this sound like I am using your system correctly? Anyway - great day!!! To top it off I hit a trifecta I liked at Arlington and followed Wabash for a couple of big winners as well. Thanks for the picks...

[VINCENZO]

Here is what you did yesterday if you understand what we are doing here.


100 to win on all horses who made 5-1 on up.

Belmont 3 horses made it...ONE WON and paid 18.40

Put up 300
Return 920
PROFIT $620
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Arlington 3 horses made 5-1 on up
ONE WON... In the 10th race the 10 Paid 12.40

Put up 300
Return 620
PROFIT $320

TWO TRACKS...PROFIT.....$940 ON DAY..

I can see that....again.....the people are too stupid to even understand something that is this easy...something where the work is done by another person and they just get the easy part......

SO I NO LONGER WILL POST HORSES HERE....

GOOD LUCK TO EVERYBODY WHO BETS HORSES....I WISH YOU THE BEST.....

[Wabash Wonders]

I think hearing Vincenzo say " SO I NO LONGER WILL POST HORSES HERE" was like hearing Michael Jordan saying " I'm retired"....

[larryonion]

Let me see if I have this straight, or if I really am too stupid...
Rules from your previous posts Vincenzo:
Any of your picks who make 5-1 and higher $100 to win
In any race with only one horse, exacta wheel that horse with any horse 9-1 or higher

So yesterday -
Belmont:
Five of your horses hit 5-1 or higher on my books (Pinnacle) live tote
One Winner Race 6 #4 Factual Contender paid $18.40
$500 risked for $920 return (Profit of $420)
Three exactas costing $12, $16, $24 - no winners
$52 risked none returned
Belmont total: + $368
Arlington:
Two of your horses hit 5-1 or higher on my books (Pinnacle) live tote
One Winner Race 9 #10 Camptown King paid $12.40
$200 risked for $620 return (Profit of $420)
Two exactas costing $8, $28 - no winners
$36 risked none returned
Arlington Total: + $384
Profit for day: $752 - I will take that ANY DAY!!!

So what am I doing wrong Vincenzo - is it that my tote is slower than yours so I wagered on two 5-1's that dropped? I don't know. I am new to horses - only three months - but I think I am following based on the rules you layed out. The only thing going back and reading your posts is that I am placing the wagers at 5 MTP - but thats the way I am going to play for now - if that makes me stupid, I'll live with it.
Sorry you won't be posting plays anymore, allegedly. You seem to be an interesting person who can add value. But if stupid people like myself (don't let my staff know - and I should have saved money and not got that masters degree...) are driving you away, so be it. At first you complain people are not taking advantage of your picks, then when I come on and say I followed for two days and made a profit each day, you call me stupid. Oh, well...
The good news for all of you, like myself, who are interested in Vincenzos system, I played it with Wabashes horses yesterday, and a few of my own, and the profit was there.
Wabash hit a wheeled exacta that paid $142.60 and a winner in the 10th that paid $36.40 using Vincenzos system. He had 10 horses at 5-1 or higher and 3 exactas costing $8,$16, and $28 (total $52). Thats a profit of $910.60. Again, I will take that anyday.

So, I wish you good luck in your travels Vincenzo, I am sorry you found this forum so unsatisfactory. And for everyone else, there are a lot of great cappers in here, and guys like me who are just starting out learn a great deal from all of you. And Vincenzos system is just another angle you can use with one of the other cappers picks, or even better, your own!

[andyrock]

larry I know what you mean....I followed his picks the other day and made over $3000 the most I have ever made in racing.....He doesn't even read the replies he just assums that no one is following his picks.....Well thats fine I didn't want him to get kicked out of this form or I didn't want him to stop posting because I made a lot of money on his picks but like you said if we are all to stupid for his picks that we don't know how to follow them them I hope he doesn't ever post again....I really hope jack takes a look at this and bands him from the form...! We are all here to try to help eachother make money and have fun....we don't need to follow someone elses picks, and we certainly don't need to be called stupid for following his plays....now thats stupid.....It was a lose lose situation.....if you didn't follow his plays he would cry....and if you did he would call us stupid....Just thought I would post my thoughts here.....I will follow wash from now on always and use the system that will make money....All horses that he post $100 a horse.....

[skippy]

Originally Posted by larryonion

Let me see if I have this straight, or if I really am too stupid...
Rules from your previous posts Vincenzo:
Any of your picks who make 5-1 and higher $100 to win
In any race with only one horse, exacta wheel that horse with any horse 9-1 or higher

So yesterday -
Belmont:
Five of your horses hit 5-1 or higher on my books (Pinnacle) live tote
One Winner Race 6 #4 Factual Contender paid $18.40
$500 risked for $920 return (Profit of $420)
Three exactas costing $12, $16, $24 - no winners
$52 risked none returned
Belmont total: + $368
Arlington:
Two of your horses hit 5-1 or higher on my books (Pinnacle) live tote
One Winner Race 9 #10 Camptown King paid $12.40
$200 risked for $620 return (Profit of $420)
Two exactas costing $8, $28 - no winners
$36 risked none returned
Arlington Total: + $384
Profit for day: $752 - I will take that ANY DAY!!!

So what am I doing wrong Vincenzo - is it that my tote is slower than yours so I wagered on two 5-1's that dropped? I don't know. I am new to horses - only three months - but I think I am following based on the rules you layed out. The only thing going back and reading your posts is that I am placing the wagers at 5 MTP - but thats the way I am going to play for now - if that makes me stupid, I'll live with it.
Sorry you won't be posting plays anymore, allegedly. You seem to be an interesting person who can add value. But if stupid people like myself (don't let my staff know - and I should have saved money and not got that masters degree...) are driving you away, so be it. At first you complain people are not taking advantage of your picks, then when I come on and say I followed for two days and made a profit each day, you call me stupid. Oh, well...
The good news for all of you, like myself, who are interested in Vincenzos system, I played it with Wabashes horses yesterday, and a few of my own, and the profit was there.
Wabash hit a wheeled exacta that paid $142.60 and a winner in the 10th that paid $36.40 using Vincenzos system. He had 10 horses at 5-1 or higher and 3 exactas costing $8,$16, and $28 (total $52). Thats a profit of $910.60. Again, I will take that anyday.

So, I wish you good luck in your travels Vincenzo, I am sorry you found this forum so unsatisfactory. And for everyone else, there are a lot of great cappers in here, and guys like me who are just starting out learn a great deal from all of you. And Vincenzos system is just another angle you can use with one of the other cappers picks, or even better, your own!

Larry, when you are betting a horse that is 5-1 or higher, and it comes in, the exactor will pay pretty good. Therefore you have to do what I had explained to AR a few days ago.

That is: You have to wheel that horse to EVERY other horse in the race for a small amount such as $5. Then you can load up on certain numbers that you like for second.

[larryonion]

Hi Skippy - thanks - I understand that system. But Vincenzo only wheels to 9-1 and higher. "No messing around with $20 exactas" he says...I play your way alot as well. Put for the purposes of this post...you get the idea

[skippy]

Originally Posted by larryonion

Hi Skippy - thanks - I understand that system. But Vincenzo only wheels to 9-1 and higher. "No messing around with $20 exactas" he says...I play your way alot as well. Put for the purposes of this post...you get the idea

Vinny bets $100 to win on his horses, so when it wins, he cashes. I am not sure if he plays exactors or not. If you are not betting the horse to win, then you need to do the COMPLETE WHEEL otherwise if the horse wins, you could be left out in the cold.

[Dr. Jack]

Vincenzo,

Normally when someone in our forum calls other members an idiot or other things – I will ask them to stay away from that kind of stuff and I usually will leave it at that. HOWEVER, you seem to think you can say anything you want to anyone and show no respect for anyone. I have warned you several times because of your blatant disregard for our rules. Is this was baseball you would of struck out a few days ago. I am not sure why I am even responding to this but enough is enough. We have no room in our forum for anyone who thinks they are bigger than the forum or for anyone who has no respect for our forum and our members. I decided to give you the benefit of doubt last time – but FYI, if you push me in a corner I will push back.

If you would like to talk about the slim possibility of being reinstated in this forum you may email me at jack@cappersmall! Judging by your previous comments you won’t need to. I wish you the best of luck in your betting endeavors.

[larryonion]

Believe me Skippy - I agree with you - and I almost always play that way - but I was trying to make a point by following Vincenzo exactly by his rules...Normally - I do play wheeled to all horses on a longshot as you suggest.

[Wabash Wonders]

Originally Posted by Dr. Jack

Vincenzo,

Normally when someone in our forum calls other members an idiot or other things – I will ask them to stay away from that kind of stuff and I usually will leave it at that. HOWEVER, you seem to think you can say anything you want to anyone and show no respect for anyone. I have warned you several times because of your blatant disregard for our rules. Is this was baseball you would of struck out a few days ago. I am not sure why I am even responding to this but enough is enough. We have no room in our forum for anyone who thinks they are bigger than the forum or for anyone who has no respect for our forum and our members. I decided to give you the benefit of doubt last time – but FYI, if you push me in a corner I will push back.

If you would like to talk about the slim possibility of being reinstated in this forum you may email me at jack@cappersmall! Judging by your previous comments you won’t need to. I wish you the best of luck in your betting endeavors.

Once again a well done job by Jack...

[larryonion]

yeah Jack...Thanks for running this place in such a great manner...