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Old 12-31-2017, 07:17 PM
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Nice job guys

Natty, I dont think it affects the top but it looks like you gave a win to both buffalo and miami
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Old 12-31-2017, 07:21 PM
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Congrats Binkley and to all those in the money. It's been a great competition (as always). Wishing everyone the best in the New Year and a special thanks to Dr. Jack for hosting such s great site.
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Old 12-31-2017, 08:40 PM
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congrats to the winners.. well done.
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Old 12-31-2017, 09:25 PM
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sounds good,, we are in for $250 GL


Also good season Vangio.

Would you be interested in going again next season as well? Let me know how you want to figure out payment for this season.

Happy New Years!
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Old 01-01-2018, 09:35 AM
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wow this really is a big pool each year. largest post up contest on any forum

what were the exact payout numbers for the winners

Prizes
100% of the entry to prizes

Updated for 100 entries and $300 pool

100 Entries = 30K

1st = 60% of remaining

2nd = 25% of remaining

3rd = 15% of remaining

4th would be $800

5th - 7th would be $550

8th - 10th would be $300

Then we will go with the remaining

1st = 60% of remaining
2nd = 25% of remaining
3rd = 15% of remaining

If 90+ entries (top 9 will pay)

4th-6th = $500
5th-9th = $250

Remaining

1st place - 60% of remaining
2nd place - 25% of remaining
3rd place - 15% of remaining

If 80 or more - the top 8 will get paid.

4th-6th - $500
5th-8th - $250

Remaining

1st place - 60% of remaining
2nd place - 25% of remaining
3rd place - 15% of remaining

79 or less entries

1st place - 60%
2nd place - 25%
3rd place - 15%


Leave this thread for contest questions. I will post other threads for confirmed entries, standings and a general discussion thread.

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Old 01-01-2018, 12:18 PM
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Know what the difference between hitting .250 and .300 is? It's 25 hits - 25 hits in 500 at-bats is 50 points. There's six months in a season, that's about 25 weeks. That means if you get just one extra flare a week - just one - you get a ground ball with eyes, you get a dying quail, just one more dying quail a week ... and you're in Yankee Stadium.- Crash Davis

That is how tight it is in this contest. The top 16 guys separated by 5 points. Just 1 more win every 3 weeks. Just one late meaningless field goal to push a game over instead of under. Just one backdoor cover. Just ONE every 3 weeks and instead of being out of the money you win it all. I hate being bubble guy by half a point. Lol. Congrats too all the winners that found a way too get that extra flare.
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Old 01-02-2018, 08:02 AM
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Congratulations to the winners. I enjoyed being a part of the contest this year.

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Old 01-02-2018, 07:31 PM
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Okay.

So $250usd sent to the winner between me and you after the regular season.

Payment sent on paypal.

We will go by whoever finishes higher in the standings thread for NFL pick 5 to keep track of our totals.

Let me know this all works for you as it does for me and we have a deal.
Dobs, whats your PayPal
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Old 01-02-2018, 11:45 PM
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Know what the difference between hitting .250 and .300 is? It's 25 hits - 25 hits in 500 at-bats is 50 points. There's six months in a season, that's about 25 weeks. That means if you get just one extra flare a week - just one - you get a ground ball with eyes, you get a dying quail, just one more dying quail a week ... and you're in Yankee Stadium.- Crash Davis
It would take about six of these contests to get to a 500 sample. The sample of one NFL season is small, and open to wild fluctuations between seasons. The solid handicappers usually finish in the same area, because their fluctuation from season to season is relatively small.

No disrespect at all, but the winner won 58% ATS for sides (well below the high percentage needed to win a contest), and most of his picks were for totals, loading up on free points. The free points for totals, in my opinion, shift the nature of this contest into a gray area. Since you made the baseball comparison, it would be like the steroid era. Books would cancel these type of winning plays, and in that sense the contest would be much more honest either without totals or with live lines.
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Old 01-03-2018, 10:36 AM
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It would take about six of these contests to get to a 500 sample. The sample of one NFL season is small, and open to wild fluctuations between seasons. The solid handicappers usually finish in the same area, because their fluctuation from season to season is relatively small.

No disrespect at all, but the winner won 58% ATS for sides (well below the high percentage needed to win a contest), and most of his picks were for totals, loading up on free points. The free points for totals, in my opinion, shift the nature of this contest into a gray area. Since you made the baseball comparison, it would be like the steroid era. Books would cancel these type of winning plays, and in that sense the contest would be much more honest either without totals or with live lines.

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Old 01-03-2018, 11:12 AM
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It would take about six of these contests to get to a 500 sample. The sample of one NFL season is small, and open to wild fluctuations between seasons. The solid handicappers usually finish in the same area, because their fluctuation from season to season is relatively small.

No disrespect at all, but the winner won 58% ATS for sides (well below the high percentage needed to win a contest), and most of his picks were for totals, loading up on free points. The free points for totals, in my opinion, shift the nature of this contest into a gray area. Since you made the baseball comparison, it would be like the steroid era. Books would cancel these type of winning plays, and in that sense the contest would be much more honest either without totals or with live lines.
I've heard this before so I went back through all of his total plays for the year and it would have changed his total 3 games or from 64% today 61%. Even at 61% a very solid winning year. Next year I'm just going to watch for line moves and break Vegas. 😂
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Old 01-03-2018, 01:13 PM
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Old 01-03-2018, 01:20 PM
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theres no reason to attack the samurai guy, hes making a suggestions for either a separate contest or for this one for next year.

I disagree, all these contest are static lines released midweek, ours is a bit better than say westgate in that lines released wednesday for only for the thursday games and the sunday slate has lines released friday

I virtually only post picks from spreads, very rare total in this contest, and thats because I am not good at totals. So if its easy to exploit static totals, then somehow I am missing something. By that token exploiting static spreads should be easy.

they say thats how Fezzick won 2 straight Hiltons
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Old 01-03-2018, 02:31 PM
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I'm not attacking the guy. I'm just saying that those line moves picks won't win the contest for you or everyone would just take those picks. Once again the line moves had only a 3 point difference over 17 weeks. Yes that matters but I don't think you can win unless you are hitting a high% of your other picks.
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Old 01-03-2018, 02:38 PM
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im agreeing with you, all of these contests are always static lines
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Old 01-03-2018, 02:41 PM
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Only reason I would hate to see totals removed is because Binkley and SI's picks make me money. Thats why I also hope the 12:55 deadline stays. Gives the actual gamblers a chance too get bets in if you follow guys that post late in the contest.
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Only reason I would hate to see totals removed is because Binkley and SI's picks make me money. Thats why I also hope the 12:55 deadline stays. Gives the actual gamblers a chance too get bets in if you follow guys that post late in the contest.
I would like to see the posting deadline be 30 prior to first kickoff Sunday for NFL, and a solid 30 minutes prior for NCAA football on Saturday. The leaders like you Mark posted too late for people to benefit on the 1st slot of games. Many times that was where most games were played, and I am sure you and the other 3-4 already knew who you were taking. Many were the same selections.
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Old 01-03-2018, 05:48 PM
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I agree Totals should be allowed. The are put on the board to play, so why not. I followed SI too, but started too late.
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Old 01-03-2018, 08:57 PM
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I would like to see the posting deadline be 30 prior to first kickoff Sunday for NFL, and a solid 30 minutes prior for NCAA football on Saturday. The leaders like you Mark posted too late for people to benefit on the 1st slot of games. Many times that was where most games were played, and I am sure you and the other 3-4 already knew who you were taking. Many were the same selections.
Sorry for that Steeler. I agree with you. I know that I played the games Everything, Briefcase and I all liked heavier and made good money on those plays. I'd like for it to be where others could do the same but at the same time don't want too give too much away too the competition. Lol. Hopefully we can find a good middle ground that works for everyone.
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I agree Totals should be allowed. The are put on the board to play, so why not. I followed SI too, but started too late.
yeah, i had 5-6 weeks of pure hell in the middle of the season.

It was coming as there was no way I was going to be hitting 65% all year. Just sucked as I never changed ANYTHING I did and had 3-4 really bad beats which cost me some money.

oh well, I had tons of fun doing this contest and will continue too. Jack runs amazing contests here and the rules are fair for all that participate
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Thanks for the reply.

It's [email protected]

Money is there....see ya next year
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Money is there....see ya next year
Thanks Vangio. I'm new to paypal so it takes a couple weeks to clear.

Looks like you sent 15$ extra though? We can put it as a credit for next season if you want or I can send 15$ back. Let me know.


See everyone next year.
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It would take about six of these contests to get to a 500 sample. The sample of one NFL season is small, and open to wild fluctuations between seasons. The solid handicappers usually finish in the same area, because their fluctuation from season to season is relatively small.

No disrespect at all, but the winner won 58% ATS for sides (well below the high percentage needed to win a contest), and most of his picks were for totals, loading up on free points. The free points for totals, in my opinion, shift the nature of this contest into a gray area. Since you made the baseball comparison, it would be like the steroid era. Books would cancel these type of winning plays, and in that sense the contest would be much more honest either without totals or with live lines.
The best solution is to have a much earlier deadline. I know we aren't trying to mimic the Westgate, but an earlier deadline does eliminate much of the cherry picking. As long as the deadline is Sunday at kickoff or really any time Sunday, cherry picking will remain a common practice. With an earlier deadline, cherry picking will remain an option, but there also is a possibility of a # whipsawing opposite the previous stale #.
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