5 units please

[TTB]

5 units Toronto under 71 TT

pitching very suspect and Lind and Hill come back down to earth a bit.....plus they will rack up lots of L's vs. Rays, BoSox, and Yanks

[steel69]

I agree...Losing Doc and Scutaro will hurt no doubt.
gl with the bet

[huscroft6]

Yea, their pitching is highly questionable. I like Marcum as a pitcher but an ace. Who knows if McGowan comes back healthy. And just cant expect a heck of alot from guys like Romero and Reczpinkski (sp?). Plus Frasor is serviceable but not someone to rely on consistentely, I actually think Gregg would make a better closer. Lineup solid, but they need Wells to return to some kind of form and Rios to improve. Lind is a stud, I think he puts up great numbers again but im not totally sold on Hill putting up the same.

[The Nac]

Originally Posted by huscroft6

Yea, their pitching is highly questionable. I like Marcum as a pitcher but an ace. Who knows if McGowan comes back healthy. And just cant expect a heck of alot from guys like Romero and Reczpinkski (sp?). Plus Frasor is serviceable but not someone to rely on consistentely, I actually think Gregg would make a better closer. Lineup solid, but they need Wells to return to some kind of form and Rios to improve. Lind is a stud, I think he puts up great numbers again but im not totally sold on Hill putting up the same.

Couple of quick notes, hus:

- it's Rzepczynski
- Rios hasn't been a Jay in about 7 months now (August 10, 2009)
- couldn't agree more about Gregg > Frasor
- best thing Wells can do for us this year is find a team to take his contract

On a note nobody seems to talk about with the Jays, we have shit for catching. Buck sucks, and our "catcher" of tomorrow that we've been hearing about for at least what...5 years now?...Arencibia is still not ready to join the big club. Not sure when tomorrow starts, but considering this year is already a write-off, just bring the damn kid up and let's just play all our young guys. No pressure and no expectations - perfect scenario for a new guy to come in and get his feet wet in the show.

We have an overrated 3B (Encarnasshiole) who doesn't even want to be here. We have a SS who is the best in baseball with a glove and nothing more than a T-Ball all-star with a bat. His replacement is another Marlins' reject, and for us, yet another Alex Gonzalez (and truth be told, I prefer the old one).

I've said it numerous times, and will say it again: this team will NOT finish under 71 wins. We're still better than the Orioles, Doc or no Doc.

1 man does not a team make, gentlemen.

[huscroft6]

LOL, brain fart with Rios.


But agree with Buck, although your only hope is that sometimes catchers hit their stride later than other players.

[cptkirk321]

My Jays will struggle this year but will still win more than 71 games. This number is an overreaction to the Jays losing Halladay and nothing more. Marcum is no Halladay but he will eat up some wins and the Jays offense is going to be better this year than last as long as Cito goes with the guys who have earned their positions like Ruiz and McCoy(actually see him being the everyday shortstop by the all star break). Jays young pitchers will look like CyYoung one game and Billy Young another but they will be able to pick up enough wins to get over this total.

As for Kevin Gregg this guy will not even be on this team by the All Star break in my opinion. This guy was horrible last year and so far this spring not much better.

Losing Scutaro is no big loss, last year he played great and he is a solid player but will not come close to matching the type of year he had last and I think the Sox will also be looking for an everyday SS in July to give them a bit more offense.

[TheHippieRipper]

Nice speech Nac. Have 2 reward points

[The Nac]

HA! Thanks HR

[upinya83]

Agree with your bet TTB, and Nac, I think the O's are better than the Jays this year

either way, they both play in the AL East, and will both get crushed in season series vs the other 3 teams in league

gl buddy

[BigFratDaddy]

100-1 to win the division says it all...

[upinya83]

Originally Posted by BigFratDaddy

100-1 to win the division says it all...

disagree, in the AL east, the odds to win division, and over/under win total are totally different bets

They would win 85 games and finish double digit games back still, and even 4th place

[BigFratDaddy]

Originally Posted by upinya83

disagree, in the AL east, the odds to win division, and over/under win total are totally different bets

They would win 85 games and finish double digit games back still, and even 4th place

if they had the potential to win 82+ games they would be at 25-1ish, like the Orioles, which are still horrendous odds to beat out a handful of teams if youre considered a .500 team, regardless of division.

While the Yankees and Red Sox will not make it any easier to win a division, 100-1 is insane for a 75 win team the previous season. They should be in for a significant slide imo

[TTB]

Originally Posted by upinya83

Agree with your bet TTB, and Nac, I think the O's are better than the Jays this year

either way, they both play in the AL East, and will both get crushed in season series vs the other 3 teams in league

gl buddy

thanks bro

[The Nac]

I've bookmarked this, because I'm going to hate having to bump it when they win series against Boston AND New York (which they do every year), and when they top 71 wins and finish 4th...ahead of Baltimore.

It's not that I don't want you guys to cash on your bets. Love seeing you guys do well. I just really think you're going to be wrong on this one.

[TTB]

Touting a 4th place contender and Toronto is going to own the Yanks and Red Sox?

ok

jk