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Old 10-23-2018, 12:16 PM
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lets clear up one thing

sox still play 2nd fiddle to the yankees
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Old 10-23-2018, 12:25 PM
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Will win about 8K if the Dodgers win the WS

Will lose about 3K if Boston wins

Though if Dodgers can get them in a hole, I will hedge some
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Old 10-23-2018, 12:29 PM
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lets clear up one thing

sox still play 2nd fiddle to the yankees
Exactly my point! lol
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Old 10-23-2018, 04:40 PM
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Exactly my point! lol
No your point was that the pressure is on the Dodgers and not the Red Sox

then your point changed to " but still " and then you referenced that they had won a series against a team they play 16 times a year

Red Sox are still the favorites and still expected to win as the greatest team in Red Sox history 108 wins

You think the Dodgers know that there are underdogs? Lol

Best Sports Illustrated 108 wins bat will be a keeper especially if they can't win this series. No pressure
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Old 10-23-2018, 04:48 PM
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You have no clue what my point was Jahred. You were too caught up in your childish jokes and my homerism
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Old 10-23-2018, 04:55 PM
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:03 PM
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And for the record, my palm palms are on the keyboard when I type. My pom poms are in the closet.
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:05 PM
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And it's funny because you google it and quora has 5 replies and all think the Dodgers.

Between the Dodgers and Red Sox, which team arguably has the most pressure to win the World Series, and why? - Quora
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:15 PM
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Some solid reasoning in there I didn't see Magic Johnson mention though.

You don't even read I have made plenty of points honestly it's not even debatable
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:15 PM
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Kershaw knows it's there

"I think with each postseason and not winning a World Series, I think you tack on a little bit more pressure, a little bit more urgency to win, especially when you're in the market that we're in," said Kershaw, one of three current Dodgers who played on each of the six divisional champions. "You just try to take it year by year, honestly."

"When you're the team that we are, I think there comes a little bit more pressure, for sure, just because we've had such a great team and it's been a long time since we've won one."

Not since 1988 have the Dodgers won a World Series. That drought, combined with the conversation surrounding it, adds unique motivation.

"We hear about that a lot," Kershaw said. "I think it stands as a testament to this organization that they have such great history, that they take a lot of pride in their history. But at the same time if we win one, we might not have to hear about it anymore, which would be awesome.

"No disrespect to 1988 but we are sick of it. It's up to us to do something about it, obviously. We need to create some of our own history, for sure."
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:16 PM
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I'm not saying the Red Sox can't handle the pressure but it's literally laughable to say that the Dodgers have more pressure than the Red Sox here.

what they have is more experience.
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:18 PM
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You have no clue what my point was Jahred. You were too caught up in your childish jokes and my homerism
I like this one

Someone tell me that's not exactly what a female would say
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:21 PM
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Some solid reasoning in there I didn't see Magic Johnson mention though.

You don't even read I have made plenty of points honestly it's not even debatable
Course not. You are like rjb, 2 peas in a pod. Doesn't matter what others say because you don't listen. You call me nothing but a homer, yet you fail to acknowledge I picked Houston to beat Boston. You say all I care about is cheerleading while you care about money and again fail to acknowledge that I have bet against Boston several times in this postseason. It doesn't fit your narrative so ignore right?

Magic guaranteed a WS title last year and when the team was bought he was rolled out there like a team mascot. He also said things were changing. Well, have they? They have another chance this year.
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:27 PM
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:39 PM
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I have not denied the pressure on Boston in this postseason. All I said was it was much higher to get out of round 1 because they would look like a total failure if they lost round 1 and, it would be twice as bad losing to the NYY. In the next round it was house money because they were playing the defending Champs. Experience meant nothing in that series so to be honest, I don't think that matters.

Maybe urgency is a better word for me. I do not think Boston feels the urgency to win after having done it 3 times fairly recently. I know, not the same players but the City is not treating it like life & death like they did in the past. I also read somewhere that only like 5 of the last 23 WS winners had the best record in baseball. It was something like that so it's not like they have to win because all others in their position have
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:44 PM
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I 5 of the last 23 WS winners had the best record in baseball. It was something like that so it's not like they have to win because all others in their position have
Yes because the best record in baseball means nothing unless you win the World Series. It is called added pressure

Wayne, did you really just say you don't think experience matters in this series?
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:47 PM
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Yes because the best record in baseball means nothing unless you win the World Series.

Wayne, did you really just say you don't think experience matters in this series?
Yes I did. So you think it matters in the WS but not the ALCS?
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:49 PM
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Looking back it didn't help Texas in year 2 of the WS, it didn't help STL in 2013, it didn't help Philly in 2009 after winning in 2008. I think the better team will win.
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:11 PM
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Yes I did. So you think it matters in the WS but not the ALCS?
Considering it's the only series that matters, yes
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:16 PM
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Ok, but that makes no sense.
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:21 PM
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3 teams have gone to back to back WS since 2000

Texas lost in year 1, lost in year 2

Philly won in year 1, lost in year 2

KC lost in year 1, won in year 2

Maybe it does but I don't think it matters.
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:36 PM
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Fwiw I agree with Wayne that the real pressure was on the Sox with those 108 wins was to get out of the first round after failing in the last two years after having won the division.
I can't put myself in the place of any Sox player, but imo any Sox diehard will tell you that the pressure was intensified in that first round by playing the Yankees, who as any Sox or just plain baseball fan knows, is a better rival every year no matter their places in the standings.
Getting by the world champion Astros next, a team which eliminated them last year and who imo overall is a better team than the Sox all things considered, was extremely gratifying especially sweeping them after losing game one.
I mean can you imagine the pressure on the Sox in Game Two at Fenway after losing Game one knowing the next three games would be in Houston!!!
I can't say for sure who is going to win this WS, but imo pressure and experience will not be the deciding factors here, as imo the Sox overcame both of those in the previous two series.
Again from my perspective, it will hurt a bit for a while if they lose to the Dodgers, but on the other hand by my criterion, they have already proven themselves by getting by two teams that many of us including me did not think they could defeat.
In short, if they lose, after a week, month, etc. and after initial disappointment, I will be reveling in what the Sox did over the season and playoffs, ie winning 108 games and then getting over two difficult hurdles. and then thinking about next season.
To be fair, if the Dodgers should say sweep the Sox and/or humiliate them over the entire series, then yeah the pain will be a bit greater.
Again I am speaking for myself only as a Sox diehard for 66 years.
May the better team win!
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:46 PM
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savage, that is exactly how every person I know feels. Exactly. If you had told me before the season that they would beat two 100 win teams to get to the WS but lost, my 1st reaction would be holy shit they beat two 100 wins teams? My 2nd reaction would be damn that sucks, who did they lose to? It will no doubt be disappointing but after I get over that, it will be remembered by me as a season filled with a lot of fun.
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:55 PM
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Spot on post, Wayne-you and I am sure just about every true Sox fan see this series in the same way or at least imo they should!!
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Old 10-28-2018, 11:26 PM
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Hell fuckin yeah!!!!!

Experience meant nothing and if the pressure was on them, they certainly didn't show it.

Best team in baseball from start to finish this season and no team even won 2 games against them in a series!!!

That team was wicked good!


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