Trevor Hoffman vs. Ken Griffey Jr.

[Gerk]

Both Hall of Famers, I think that's a lock

Do either have a chance to rebound or are both done? Do either have anything left in the tank to help any contending team?

Do either get released here soon? I think Hoffman may be gone soon. I think him and Macha may be taking the same cab out of the ballpark

[Seanie Mac]

Hoffman and his wonderful -8 today. 1st time this year I had him active too

[Seanie Mac]

Griffey is a ****ing legend, I don't give a shit if he takes a little nap or not. he was better then sliced bread in his prime. plus they still have 4 promos involving him this year

[MCP313]

Griffey IMO cant turn on a fastball nor can he run so he is toast IMO.

For some reason I think Hoffman has a better chance of getting his act together strictly because he never depended on heat to begin with. If he can get his location together his changeup is still an effective pitch. The tricky part is do you keep sending him out in the 9th waiting for him.

[Bisket]

both should have already retired

[justdonating]

Tough question. I think Griffey may survive longer. The Mariners can put Griffey on the field in certain situations, none of which will cost them a game. Hoffman on the other hand is a relief pitcher. He can and has cost the Brewers more than one game this year. I'm not sure they can continue to let this happen. His stuff has no movement and his location is awful, which leaves him throwing "meat".

[Seanie Mac]

Hoffman is Jamie Moyer right now with zero placement. he throws 2 pitches, slow and slower right down the middle

[justdonating]

Originally Posted by Seanie Mac

Hoffman is Jamie Moyer right now with zero placement. he throws 2 pitches, slow and slower right down the middle

I try to avoid betting Brewers unders and sides because I know if Hoffman comes in, I'm dead. Guy cost me 3 times in the same week!

[Ron Mexico]

Hoffman should just give back the money they paid him and go away.

I would be so embarassed if I was him. Its sad. He stayed 1 year too long.

[Cameron]

Originally Posted by Ron Mexico

Hoffman should just give back the money they paid him and go away.

I would be so embarassed if I was him. Its sad. He stayed 1 year too long.

Yep. And Griffey stayed ten lol.

[dhunter]

i agree that hoffman should hang it up but i think he's better than he's shown.

last season he was 1.83 era, 0.91 whip, .183 baa, 37 saves and almost a k per inning.

how did he get this bad in just one season?

[Seanie Mac]

Hoffman basically won me my fantasy league last year, when he hit the wire this year I picked him up hoping to rekindle some magic.

I'm pretty sure but I could be wrong, but didn't he struggle a little bit when he came back last year?

[Gerk]

Hoffman will be available to the highest bidder for participants in the All Star Game HR hitting contest . He may need the work then

[dave nz]

I was surprised when I made a thread recently on Ken Griffey Jr. some of the things said about him. Very little doubt in my mind he is a HOFer.

[Gerk]

Originally Posted by dave nz

I was surprised when I made a thread recently on Ken Griffey Jr. some of the things said about him. Very little doubt in my mind he is a HOFer.

People said he's not a HOFer? However bad he is now, unless some steroids thing comes up, he's a lock for the HOF