Officials need a reality check...anyone else notice this?

[NightCap424]

Just like most of you, I watched every possible minute of every game played Thurs-Sun.......if you didn't, well you missed out.

Anyway, college basketball officiating has gone off the deep end in my opinion. There are way too many inconsistencies with officiating these days. Different conferences are known for different styles of play. I watched a few games this weekend where bodies were hitting the deck and people were screaming for fouls but there were no whistles......I also watched a few games where allowing your shorts to rub on another player drew an instant whistle. I'm sick of seeing games decided by officials.....they are there to keep the "obvious" fouls from preventing a advantage/disadvantage for one team or another. Way too many whistles are being blown for ghost fouls, and at the same time, there aren't as many whistles for no calls on charges and blocking fouls....I just don't get it.

I noticed a few officials from the Big Ten this weekend, and they were blowing their whistles like crossing guards protecting kids crossing the street. It was ridiculous.......I also noticed a Big East crew not call anything for about a 10 minute span and both teams went to half time with under 10 team fouls all together. That's almost unheard of these days.......

What I am trying to say is that officials need to get their shit together.....determine how close a player is to being under the hoop on an attempted charge, call a real reach in foul instead of weak hand checks, let a player go for a rebound without being called for over the back....etc

Whistles need to be blown for an obvious, necessary call. There are too many whistles being blown just to be blown IMO. Make up calls and calls to even out foul totals are almost too obvious to point out......also, I really wish officials would stop acting like fools when they call a foul. All they need to do is blow the whistle, walk over towards the scoring table, record the player's number and what occurred, and move on! They don't need to do a dance and hop around after a charge or blocking foul....

I think officials are overpaid for the garbage job they do.....in the off season there needs to be a standard set for all leagues and a little more consistency come tournament time. I am seeing way too many games decided by officials rather than players.

What does everyone else think about the officiating in 2009/2010 and the tournament???

NC424

(ps: this has nothing to do with winning or losing a bet, simply an irritation I have been noticing)

[Kacknballz]

Dude, if I had a nickle for every time you posted something about college refs this year I wouldn't need to gamble anymore.

[Jerry's Kid]

Speaking of refs, isn't it funny how nobody even mentions the NBA scandal that just happened. They really swept it into a dark hole quick......

[jam_jam33]

Originally Posted by NightCap424

Just like most of you, I watched every possible minute of every game played Thurs-Sun.......if you didn't, well you missed out.

Anyway, college basketball officiating has gone off the deep end in my opinion. There are way too many inconsistencies with officiating these days. Different conferences are known for different styles of play. I watched a few games this weekend where bodies were hitting the deck and people were screaming for fouls but there were no whistles......I also watched a few games where allowing your shorts to rub on another player drew an instant whistle. I'm sick of seeing games decided by officials.....they are there to keep the "obvious" fouls from preventing a advantage/disadvantage for one team or another. Way too many whistles are being blown for ghost fouls, and at the same time, there aren't as many whistles for no calls on charges and blocking fouls....I just don't get it.

I noticed a few officials from the Big Ten this weekend, and they were blowing their whistles like crossing guards protecting kids crossing the street. It was ridiculous.......I also noticed a Big East crew not call anything for about a 10 minute span and both teams went to half time with under 10 team fouls all together. That's almost unheard of these days.......

What I am trying to say is that officials need to get their shit together.....determine how close a player is to being under the hoop on an attempted charge, call a real reach in foul instead of weak hand checks, let a player go for a rebound without being called for over the back....etc

Whistles need to be blown for an obvious, necessary call. There are too many whistles being blown just to be blown IMO. Make up calls and calls to even out foul totals are almost too obvious to point out......also, I really wish officials would stop acting like fools when they call a foul. All they need to do is blow the whistle, walk over towards the scoring table, record the player's number and what occurred, and move on! They don't need to do a dance and hop around after a charge or blocking foul....

I think officials are overpaid for the garbage job they do.....in the off season there needs to be a standard set for all leagues and a little more consistency come tournament time. I am seeing way too many games decided by officials rather than players.

What does everyone else think about the officiating in 2009/2010 and the tournament???

NC424

(ps: this has nothing to do with winning or losing a bet, simply an irritation I have been noticing)

Agree on everything you just said!

[duckster]

watched the womens a&m-gonzaga game last night, it was bad and very physical, A&M's coach had enough early in the second half on a drive to the bucket and just got clobbered in the paint by 3 emerging gonzaga defenders, looked like rugby! he got T'd up and that was only his 3rd T of his career which goes many years. it was so obvious, game was played in gonzaga home State

[GFootsXtreme]

the fact is that anytime there is human involvement in any type of event there is room for bs. for at least 20 years the nfl fought having replay at all, using the excuse that they like the game "the way it is"...meaning they like that referees get calls wrong all the time and don't mind that games are wrongly decided...frequently

in mlb they have technology that tells them exactly what is a ball and a strike, but they don't use it because....they don't want to get the calls right. they recently decided they will use replay to determine if a ball is really a HR or not

hockey uses replay to determine if the puck actually crossed the line or not, kudos

The sad truth is that for the most part, sports like human referees not just because of "tradition" but because it allows them to control games in whatever fashion the league chooses. this has been discussed ad naseum about the nba, and as someone else pointed, out....there is a known cheating referee in the sport, but everybody pretends it isn't important because they want to pretend...it isn't important

the nba continues to have control over how games, series and championships are won and they love that control. they will never give it up until they have to

and the ncaa tourney is no different. what refs cover what games is UNDER THE CONTROL of other people, and thus they control the outcome of games, to a certain degree...just like they want to

this is an extremely uncomfortable fact for gamblers, and is a big reason why imo most gamblers choose to pretend it isn't real

much easier to think the tourney just has a lot of surprises than to consider that some teams play better in a wide-open game and others play better in a game that is closely called...again, more comfortable to believe it's all "random"

your example of how they call different games is a perfect example. if it feels good to believe that the ncaa is simply unable to train their referees to be consistent, go ahead and believe that. the truth is that while there are some differences, they COULD be trained to all make the same calls....but they aren't

[NightCap424]

Originally Posted by Kacknballz

Dude, if I had a nickle for every time you posted something about college refs this year I wouldn't need to gamble anymore.

Congrats....contributions to the thread are appreciated. Any opinion on the matter at hand would be nice. Thanks.

[MR.FUGI]

Originally Posted by GFootsXtreme

the fact is that anytime there is human involvement in any type of event there is room for bs. for at least 20 years the nfl fought having replay at all, using the excuse that they like the game "the way it is"...meaning they like that referees get calls wrong all the time and don't mind that games are wrongly decided...frequently

in mlb they have technology that tells them exactly what is a ball and a strike, but they don't use it because....they don't want to get the calls right. they recently decided they will use replay to determine if a ball is really a HR or not

hockey uses replay to determine if the puck actually crossed the line or not, kudos

The sad truth is that for the most part, sports like human referees not just because of "tradition" but because it allows them to control games in whatever fashion the league chooses. this has been discussed ad naseum about the nba, and as someone else pointed, out....there is a known cheating referee in the sport, but everybody pretends it isn't important because they want to pretend...it isn't important

the nba continues to have control over how games, series and championships are won and they love that control. they will never give it up until they have to

and the ncaa tourney is no different. what refs cover what games is UNDER THE CONTROL of other people, and thus they control the outcome of games, to a certain degree...just like they want to

this is an extremely uncomfortable fact for gamblers, and is a big reason why imo most gamblers choose to pretend it isn't real

much easier to think the tourney just has a lot of surprises than to consider that some teams play better in a wide-open game and others play better in a game that is closely called...again, more comfortable to believe it's all "random"

your example of how they call different games is a perfect example. if it feels good to believe that the ncaa is simply unable to train their referees to be consistent, go ahead and believe that. the truth is that while there are some differences, they COULD be trained to all make the same calls....but they aren't

Extremely well stated and i am in total agreement with your assessment!

[grzftbl]

Originally Posted by NightCap424

Just like most of you, I watched every possible minute of every game played Thurs-Sun.......if you didn't, well you missed out.

Anyway, college basketball officiating has gone off the deep end in my opinion. There are way too many inconsistencies with officiating these days. Different conferences are known for different styles of play. I watched a few games this weekend where bodies were hitting the deck and people were screaming for fouls but there were no whistles......I also watched a few games where allowing your shorts to rub on another player drew an instant whistle. I'm sick of seeing games decided by officials.....

1st off, I usually like your post's and what you have to say. But I got to the sentence in bold and didn't read another word you had to say.

As soon as teams shoot 100% and have zero turnovers I won't believe the refs decide the outcome.

[NightCap424]

Originally Posted by grzftbl

1st off, I usually like your post's and what you have to say. But I got to the sentence in bold and didn't read another word you had to say.

As soon as teams shoot 100% and have zero turnovers I won't believe the refs decide the outcome.

You obviously aren't looking into the context of the argument...constant whistles create situations where players dictate games, yes. However, unecessary calls and blown up games with 45+ foul calls can also sway a game in one way or another if the free throw shooting or foul outs balance one team more than the other....no need to act like a jerk.

[GFootsXtreme]

there's a difference between bitching because you just lost a game and the refs made some shady calls and making a general statement about the state of things

nightcap is making a valid complaint here and one that few would really dispute. it happens all the time where you see a team play and when there are different ref crews suddenly things change fast...the most common thing for refs to do to muck up a game is give a star player 2-3 fouls early in a game and force him out to the bench

game after game the star is unstoppable and suddenly one game the refs call every ticky tack call...then a game or two later he's unstoppable again. we've all seen it

[upinya83]

purdue didnt get many call against A&M, do agree there

[NightCap424]

Originally Posted by upinya83

purdue didnt get many call against A&M, do agree there

Yeah, that game was interesting to watch. I thought the refs did about the best they could too be honest. The only issue with that game was the "tale of two halfs". The first half was whistle happy while the second half was a football game. They need to figure out how they are going to let them play.....

[grzftbl]

Originally Posted by NightCap424

You obviously aren't looking into the context of the argument...constant whistles create situations where players dictate games, yes. However, unecessary calls and blown up games with 45+ foul calls can also sway a game in one way or another if the free throw shooting or foul outs balance one team more than the other....no need to act like a jerk.

If I came across as a jerk, I'm sorry. Not an internet tough guy here. And besides, I didn't read the whole write-up, remember?

[Matt Foley]

Thought about this thread while watching the Xav / Ksst game.....refs seem to be helping Xavier out alot.....13 ft attempts for Xav and only 3 for Ksst st.....also noticing alot of calls not being called against xav and lots going against ksst.....anyone else seeing this?