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[larrylooser]

Guys a friend of mine is trying to tell me that the bears maybe in talks with giants lineman osi umenyiora. Now i heard the giants are wanting a #1 pick in return.

If true which i doubt would you trade for him you could have bookends with osi and peppers and that would defintley help a possible weak secondary.

And i believe the bears do have the cap space. But the o-line probably needs help and do you give up another #1 pick.

Interested in what you guys think and if anyone has heard such a rumor.

[walk066]

I don't know if he is worth a #1 pick, but I would entertain the idea. He can be dominate at times and just improve what is already a great defense.

The offensive line will always be a problem. I think they are trying to minimize the sacks this year with a blocking TE, but who knows. The problem is offensive lineman don't fall off trees like other positions.

[larrylooser]

That is what i thought as well. Just do not think he is worth a #1 pick.

[chibob]

Doubt the Bears will part with a number 1 again.

According to some reports, they were happy Olin didn't take the deal. He was there all last season and the QB was sacked 50+ times. It is like the Cubs not parting with Marmol or anyone else worth a crap. How much would it hurt them?

Bears got younger in the O Line, and maybe Spencer is as good, and is cheaper.

[aztriman]

Osi is a difference maker, and the Bears have to get better in my opinion. He would really turn the defense into a top 2 or 3 unit, which would also take pressure off the offense. They could just run the ball and punt if their defense had Osi. I'd give a #1 pick - he's a proven commodity, and there's never any assurance the #1 pick would perform, and a #1 pick won't help them this year.

[chibob]

Originally Posted by aztriman

Osi is a difference maker, and the Bears have to get better in my opinion. He would really turn the defense into a top 2 or 3 unit, which would also take pressure off the offense. They could just run the ball and punt if their defense had Osi. I'd give a #1 pick - he's a proven commodity, and there's never any assurance the #1 pick would perform, and a #1 pick won't help them this year.

Defense is the key for Lovie, but this is a Martz offense, pass, pass, pass

Rather than trade a #1, they will do as they did this year. Grab someones castoff, who was a high draft pick and hope Merrinelli can find the missing link in the guy.

Plus, they paid a royal ransome for Peppers. I would rather see them get a top corner, but that probably won't happen either

[NightCap424]

The Bears pretty much collected the Cowboys sloppy 2nds in the off season......Williams is past his prime, I don't care who his O-Cord is. Hurd hasn't ever been anything and I contend that Aromashodu is better in all phases than Hurd, he just never got the chance. So, who is going to get the goalline touches, Barber or Taylor? Meanwhile, what kind of production is Forte going to have after last season? Also, losing Kreutz will be a bigger factor than most think....trusting a former coach's player is a gamble with Spencer.

Might sound crazy but I don't think the Bears offseason moves make them instantly better.....they aren't worse, but definitely not better.

[SANDERS7]

next door neighbor was there #1 pick...hopefully some inside info to help us here at the forum...i doubt it...welcome back night cap..hope your having a good summer...

[chibob]

Originally Posted by NightCap424

The Bears pretty much collected the Cowboys sloppy 2nds in the off season......Williams is past his prime, I don't care who his O-Cord is. Hurd hasn't ever been anything and I contend that Aromashodu is better in all phases than Hurd, he just never got the chance. So, who is going to get the goalline touches, Barber or Taylor? Meanwhile, what kind of production is Forte going to have after last season? Also, losing Kreutz will be a bigger factor than most think....trusting a former coach's player is a gamble with Spencer.

Might sound crazy but I don't think the Bears offseason moves make them instantly better.....they aren't worse, but definitely not better.

If I'm not mistaken, Hurd, the gunner on Dallas' special teams, is much better than Davis and 4th or 5th WR. And it will be a disaster missing those 10 catches by Aromashodu had last season. Aromash has had plenty of chances as he has been cut by more teams than exist in the NFC Central.

Barber is here to block and ram the ball on short yardage plays. Maybe you forgot, but last season they were something like 0-11 in one yard situations to start the season. The TE from Pitt is 4 steps in front of the TE that was supposed to be the blocker on the right side and he performed his O'Lay move on almost all plays. The bears should have hired the resident S D fan for his opinion of this guy, which was right on the money.

Forte' is reported to have worked hard in the off season and is said to be chisled. He had his best year last season in YPC and YPR. The one to question is whether C Taylor has a job here as he was a bust last season, hence, Barber

So, looks like they addressed many of the problems they had last season, which should make them better, not worse. I don't think they will come close to last seasons sucess based on wins/losses. The schedule is more difficult, but they should be better. Like most of the last 12 seasons or so, they should split the regular season games with your guys.

[chibob]

Des Clark is back in the fold

[NightCap424]

I have a question for you Bears fans......did Cutler let you down last season by sitting out (supposedly hurt) the most important game of his career to date?

[Lavawalker]

Originally Posted by NightCap424

I have a question for you Bears fans......did Cutler let you down last season by sitting out (supposedly hurt) the most important game of his career to date?

Kinda let me down, I was actually visiting family in the Chicago area, when you are referring to, cutler just has a bad demeanor, not that it should be held against him, the team seamed to hold together and support him, thats the important thing, the bears just don't have anyone reliable who can step in for him, I think you're talking about the third Green Bay game, they should have taken care of business on the second game, played the starters the whole game, my theory is play your best in every game, and win every game, never let off the throttle, obviously bears management sees it differently, my brother-in-law and brother feel the same way, never should have played GB the third time, period. I'm not a big cutler fan, but not for the reason you start this thread with.

[walk066]

Originally Posted by Lavawalker

Kinda let me down, I was actually visiting family in the Chicago area, when you are referring to, cutler just has a bad demeanor, not that it should be held against him, the team seamed to hold together and support him, thats the important thing, the bears just don't have anyone reliable who can step in for him, I think you're talking about the third Green Bay game, they should have taken care of business on the second game, played the starters the whole game, my theory is play your best in every game, and win every game, never let off the throttle, obviously bears management sees it differently, my brother-in-law and brother feel the same way, never should have played GB the third time, period. I'm not a big cutler fan, but not for the reason you start this thread with.

I think he was talking about the playoff game.

[chibob]

Originally Posted by NightCap424

I have a question for you Bears fans......did Cutler let you down last season by sitting out (supposedly hurt) the most important game of his career to date?

No, he tried to play and was ineffective(after the injury, and was also ineffective before)

Have you seen pics of him on the field this year? The guy was on a special diet and workout program. My guess was the extra sex he was gettin this past off season and the special protien he was eating

He should have quicker feet this season , and that will be needed to stay alive.

[chibob]

Originally Posted by Lavawalker

Kinda let me down, I was actually visiting family in the Chicago area, when you are referring to, cutler just has a bad demeanor, not that it should be held against him, the team seamed to hold together and support him, thats the important thing, the bears just don't have anyone reliable who can step in for him, I think you're talking about the third Green Bay game, they should have taken care of business on the second game, played the starters the whole game, my theory is play your best in every game, and win every game, never let off the throttle, obviously bears management sees it differently, my brother-in-law and brother feel the same way, never should have played GB the third time, period. I'm not a big cutler fan, but not for the reason you start this thread with.

I thought they did play the game with starters all the way. The thing that disapointed me in that game was their failure to run the damn ball down GBs thoat. They averaged , if my memory searves me, better than 6 YPC and didn't keep slamming it . That was the case in both of the last 2 GB games.