Did Belichick make Brady or did Brady make Belichick?

Dr. Jack · #1 11-23-2009, 09:27 AM

Bill B not much of a coach before brady, now some consider him one of the best even though he cheated and also made one of the biggest bonehead (imo) coaching moves I have ever seen in my life

So my question is where would Belichick be if it weren't for Tom Brady? Would he be one of the best? Would there be multiple title?

And what about Brady? Is he one of the best ever or simply put or just a product of some great teams in New England

Who's more important?

rjb1816 · #2 11-23-2009, 09:28 AM

combo of both...brady has won them A LOT of close games over the years including super bowls. but belechick can gameplan a little.

i would side definitely with brady making the pats, and the little bit of luck that has been on their side for sure

RanPicks · #3 11-23-2009, 09:32 AM

I side with B-chick - I really think Bledsoe would have won some SB's... that system - those WR's and that defense... Brady makes them better, but I think it's B-chick.

huscroft6 · #4 11-23-2009, 09:33 AM

Brady much more important IMO

Brady could do it with you average coach. Belichick couldnt do it with your average QB.

Dr. Jack · #5 11-23-2009, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RanPicks

I side with B-chick - I really think Bledsoe would have won some SB's... that system - those WR's and that defense... Brady makes them better, but I think it's B-chick.

but they didn't have many WR in the beginning of the run

Dr. Jack · #6 11-23-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by huscroft6

Brady much more important IMO

Brady could do it with you average coach. Belichick couldnt do it with your average QB.

hard to argue with this really

RanPicks · #7 11-23-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Jack

but they didn't have many WR in the beginning of the run

which makes a better case for B-chick... and Bledsoe...

RanPicks · #8 11-23-2009, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by huscroft6

Brady much more important IMO

Brady could do it with you average coach. Belichick couldnt do it with your average QB.

you don't htink B-soe would have gone all the way? he was doin well as I recall...

huscroft6 · #9 11-23-2009, 09:37 AM

Brady made so many journeyman/average WR's look better than they were. From the Deion Branch's to David Givens. None of his SB's did he have star offensive weapons like he has now. HE made so many guys better, he made David Givens like 30 million from Tennensee lol. And this from a Pats hater.

huscroft6 · #10 11-23-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RanPicks

you don't htink B-soe would have gone all the way? he was doin well as I recall...

I dont think any way in hell Bledsoe win's ANY, let alone the 3 SB's Brady did. Bledsoe would have needed weapons that Brady has now to have any shot.

RanPicks · #11 11-23-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by huscroft6

I dont think any way in hell Bledsoe win's ANY, let alone the 3 SB's Brady did. Bledsoe would have needed weapons that Brady has now to have any shot.

I have to disagree, but that's why there's a forum