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Old 07-20-2008, 12:33 PM
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How Important is the Regular Season?

I ask because in the past 3 years,two wild cards have won the championship. Last year, the Giants lost both regular season games to DAllas, but won the one that counted, enroute to a championship. While all the talk is about the Patsies, the Chargers (in here, at least) and the Lions, none of those teams have been able to claim a championship in the past 3 years. Dallas and San Diego have not even made it to the big game.

In 2005,Pitt won their last 4 games. Last year, the Giants won their last 10 on the road. In 2005, Seattle won 11 in a row before a meaningless last day of the season loss to Green Bay, and last year, the patsies were undefeated, but both teams struggles ATS near the end. So while the talk is all about the regular season, remember it is only a big playoff to see who gets to the small playoff. The team that plays the best at the end of the regular season seems to do very well in the playoffs,no matter where they finish in the regular season and where they play their playoff games.
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Old 07-20-2008, 01:18 PM
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I have always had the mentality that if you get in the playoffs you had a shot at the SB.It is a whole new season.Even 8-8 could win the bowl. LOL
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Old 07-22-2008, 07:10 PM
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BD , The superbowl isn't that important to teams , but may be to fans ...

To teams or more specific the teams owner(s)
the most important thing is to make money during the regular season ....

As long as they sell tickets ,
and make money at the end of the year , win or lose that is the most important thing because each team is a BUSINESS ...

A superbowl is nice , but Dallas has made enough money over the years
to build a new billion dollar stadium for example ...
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Old 07-22-2008, 07:37 PM
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BD , The superbowl isn't that important to teams , but may be to fans ...

To teams or more specific the teams owner(s)
the most important thing is to make money during the regular season ....

As long as they sell tickets ,
and make money at the end of the year , win or lose that is the most important thing because each team is a BUSINESS ...

A superbowl is nice , but Dallas has made enough money over the years
to build a new billion dollar stadium for example ...
ehh some of this is somewhat true.

Players live to win a superbowl, and its in their hearts so for you to say its not important to the teams they might argue that...

as far as owners... well as we all know most of them have big EGOs and need a superbowl to satisfy them
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:01 PM
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So Owens would give up his current Salary , and donate it charity,
For a superbowl ring since he's made so much ?/
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:14 PM
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So Owens would give up his current Salary , and donate it charity,
For a superbowl ring since he's made so much ?/
^^^ This doesn't make sense so no need to answer it.


I will rephrase and say MOST players live for a superbowl, and that it is deep in their heart. Its no secret how competitive the majority of athletes are, and pretty much all strive to be the best... there are a few exceptions such as barry sanders etc... You saw the tears in owens eyes after last seasons loss.. I am sure if there was someway to guarantee a superbowl if he sacrificed his salary he might go for it... Dumb question though come with something better next time
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:21 PM
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^^^ This doesn't make sense so no need to answer it.


I will rephrase and say MOST players live for a superbowl, and that it is deep in their heart. Its no secret how competitive the majority of athletes are, and pretty much all strive to be the best... there are a few exceptions such as barry sanders etc... You saw the tears in owens eyes after last seasons loss.. I am sure if there was someway to guarantee a superbowl if he sacrificed his salary he might go for it... Dumb question though come with something better next time

no doubt that owens has heart, he showed that in the superbowl, the crying didnt impress me, but there is absolutely not a chance in hell he gives up a years salary for a superbowl.
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:22 PM
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no doubt that owens has heart, he showed that in the superbowl, the crying didnt impress me, but there is absolutely not a chance in hell he gives up a years salary for a superbowl.
There is no way to tell... he may or may not. He has plenty of money anyways, but its really irrelevant so it doesn't matter. Was a stupid question
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:45 PM
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^^^ This doesn't make sense so no need to answer it.


I will rephrase and say MOST players live for a superbowl, and that it is deep in their heart. Its no secret how competitive the majority of athletes are, and pretty much all strive to be the best... there are a few exceptions such as barry sanders etc... You saw the tears in owens eyes after last seasons loss.. I am sure if there was someway to guarantee a superbowl if he sacrificed his salary he might go for it... Dumb question though come with something better next time

ok

what about a rookie getting 50/60 mil,
25 mil signing bonus
hasn't taken a snap

Is he living for a superbowl or the money?

All rookies negotiating their contracts ?
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:49 PM
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ok

what about a rookie getting 50/60 mil,
25 mil signing bonus
hasn't taken a snap

Is he living for a superbowl or the money?

All rookies negotiating their contracts ?
Kramer I don't even understand what your point is here with the salaries... your argument is turning upside down just like your avatar.
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:17 PM
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Point is you say they live for the superbowl...

I say each player , lives for the money first

Each team also lives for the money
Salaries reflect team ticket sales


The superbowl is mearly something that
" has to be played "
Its just 1 game

by two teams , owners and group of players at end of year

The other teams , players owners still got paid each week ...
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:24 PM
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Point is you say they live for the superbowl...

I say each player , lives for the money first

Each team also lives for the money
Salaries reflect team ticket sales


The superbowl is mearly something that
" has to be played "
Its just 1 game

by two teams , owners and group of players at end of year

The other teams , players owners still got paid each week ...
I don't think you understand the work that goes into being a professional athlete or a basic mentality of most athletes out there.

Most likely you have never played a sport or been involved in a competitive program, and thats probably the main reason you just don't understand.. either that or you are just way out of touch. Either way..
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:30 PM
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I don't think you understand the work that goes into being a professional athlete or a basic mentality of most athletes out there.

Most likely you have never played a sport or been involved in a competitive program, and thats probably the main reason you just don't understand.. either that or you are just way out of touch. Either way..


just sounds like 2 people with 2 different opinions to me. I think your both partly right. Your right Cuse, atheltes have that competetive fire that drives them. Im sure alot of us on here played high school ball, maybe even a little college and got pumped up for playoff, rivalry games etc............but.......dont you think some of that drive may go away after youve been playing for as long as these guys have..non stop....and your making that much $$ with that many distractions? You cant say that you know an anthletes mentality more than kramer whether you used to play ball or not because you didnt reach that level and I guarantee things CHANGE on that level.
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:42 PM
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just sounds like 2 people with 2 different opinions to me. I think your both partly right. Your right Cuse, atheltes have that competetive fire that drives them. Im sure alot of us on here played high school ball, maybe even a little college and got pumped up for playoff, rivalry games etc............but.......dont you think some of that drive may go away after youve been playing for as long as these guys have..non stop....and your making that much $$ with that many distractions? You cant say that you know an anthletes mentality more than kramer whether you used to play ball or not because you didnt reach that level and I guarantee things CHANGE on that level.
Never said he was completely wrong, and even though things change quite a bit you can bet your ass an athletes competitive nature does not. The more things change they stay the same... and I am sorry, but I obviously do know an athletes mentality more than kramer if he truly believes what he has been posting. Again I will say I am talking about the majority.. not everyone falls into the same category.

I know you like to argue BE, but your going way out on a limb if you really want to try and back what kramer is proposing. The majority are driven or they would retire etc. ( tiki )

Just a very very small example would be the tears you see in players eyes when they decide to retire... or pretty much everyone with teary eyes or just overwhelming joy after winning a superbowl.. All of these can be seen on interviews over the years.. Thats not even mentioning nearly every time a player is interviewed and asked their goals the superbowl is mentioned 99% of the time... Again just a select few examples...

Pretty much done with this, because the fact I have even spent over 5 mins on this ridiculous statement is just sad enough.

Get em next time

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We agree to disagree Cuse

Case dismissed

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