McShay vs. Kiper Draft Prop

[Gerk]

Looks like the old gunslinger just got beat by the young gun

I'll be your huckelberry

From 5 Dimes



Kiper Final Mock Draft Correct Picks -110
McShay Final Mock Draft Correct Picks -130

[be47320]

i think kipers hair helps him pull this one out, will be close

[BigFratDaddy]

They both go 5/32 in dramatic fashion

[Seanie Mac]

mcshay usually does better, but frat is right, they rarely nail anything once the 1st 7 picks are done.

the best is when kiper starts reeling.

i still think kiper and mcshay dont understand that teams will basically give them wrong info so they can blast it all over ESPN, now all of a sudden the seahawks seem real interested in sanchez lol, come on now, they are praying some idiot like snyder and the skins mortage their whole draft and move up to 4.

the only person i ever listen to is michael smith. hes knows whats going on.

[ConstantColorUpor]

Both guys are in a real tough position because most of what they have to go on is word of mouth from the teams. Them doing mocks is so different than any one of us because we go from what we hear and typically that is the garbage these guys are recycling to feed to us. Although I do believe Mcshay is a little better because I think his pride doesn't get in the way which I believe Kipers does when he sees his mocks not working out of draft day. He basically just says how stupid the teams are for now following his mock to the T.

[Seanie Mac]

Originally Posted by boucher21

Although I do believe Mcshay is a little better because I think his pride doesn't get in the way which I believe Kipers does when he sees his mocks not working out of draft day. He basically just says how stupid the teams are for now following his mock to the T.

yes !


the thing with kiper is hes started doing next years mock already. and he does get real mad when a team goes the complete opposite of what he said, its always "it just doesnt make any sense." and then 2 days later when he hands out his grades, teams that didnt do anything near what he expected all get failing grades.

kiper kinda annoys because his only niche is a mock draft. and when him and mcshay are going at it on espn kiper is always yelling and telling mcshay hes wrong. mcshay is around all college season because hes basically a scout

kiper does his big board, top 32 players, then will fight mcshay when mcshay says the lions dont have to take stafford just because they need a qb and hes the "best" qb prospect, but kiper has stafford as the 4th or 5th best overall prospect. its one thing if you have 2 or 3 needs, but when the lions have about 10-15, taking the best player is what they need to start doing. 4 years of wr and they got 1 right. kiper is "they have to take this guy because i said so." mcshay is more scouting and more best player available

who knows maybe theyll take crabtree with the #1

[mcallister3200]

Kiper gets mad and McShay just wears that arrogant little smirk you want to wipe off his face.....The local paper had an article on this 19 yr kid from St. Paul that's a freshman at St. Thomas and has his own draft service website, I guess he started doin it at 17 and his mock draft beat McShay's two years in a row and Kiper's last year, think Shawn Zobrist is the kid's name.