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Old 10-13-2008, 03:35 PM
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Thumbs up MNF profeesinally handicapped SIDEs totals and WHY

LOL OK IM NOT A PAID HANDICAPPER !

however there are factors way differnt in MNF games past 9 years now holding at 88% regradless of THE spread

YOU absoultuley MUST BET THE WINNER of THE game

DO NOT ask a DOG to hang in under the spread and LOSE the GAME !

YOU have a 12% Chance of that happening !

SPRED is up at -9 right NOW

I assume that Kellen Winslow the WR for Browns is OUT or too weak from virus that put him hospital

WOW alread a weak offense losses a weapon the 32 nd ranked offense in the league

and Defense is ranked 17th 25 th agaisnt the run and 10 th against the pass

WELL people clean cut and dry if the offense cannot stay on field for long sustained drives the defnse having more minutes on field the whole 1st half than the offense YA know waht ya have vs the # 1 Offense and THE #2 Defense in The league ?

GOO POT ;putty ; the high powered offnse can run and pass with ease the 2nd half EX look what Colts did to the Ravens with the # 1 Defnse in league and a weak offense Demolised in a LOW scoring game 31 - 3

under 38 1/2 Total

HERES how the numbers stack up

both teams side by side points for and against

BROWNS 1 -3 ------------- GIANTS

PF 46 PA 78 ------------------PF 127 PA 49

- 8 points per game ------------ + 19.5 PG
+9 points -- + 11.5 pts > - 9
+1 ------------------------------------ + 10.5 pts
+9.5 points >

NOW to see real differnce between the two teams from zero line since you have neg number vs a pos number you add the two numbers together

- 8 pts per game PLUS a + 19.5 PPG = 27.5 pts from the 0 center on line

LOOKS like this

BRowns --------0---------------------------- giants

THE browns only win came as a DOG at CINCY a winless team

who were caught in 100 % SYSTEM bet against of MINES anay DD dog that lose a game by 3 points after winning the game or stying tied all the way in past 10 years has got blown away and lost the next game without a bye week 100% of the time DOG or favorite ! HOME or AWAY


SEE Cincy has offense BUT no Defnse to speak of !

GIANTS Jason Tuck will have his way with QB Derek all day and THE Giants this is there only MNF Games the schedule makers gave browns 5 prime time games because of last years sucess

WHO do you think wants to Eran respect HERE

WHO has more to gain by winning this game since TWO DIV rivals lost yesterday Dallas and SKINS

AFC north is a JOKE only the STEELERS reamain at TOP

THE AFC SOUTH is far better COLTS Titans Jags

GIants vs any of them would be a tough one and they would not be favored by 9 points !

GIANTS - 9 UNDER 43 points 10 units
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Old 10-13-2008, 03:38 PM
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I agree with the giants winning but I expect at least 43 points,possibly 50.Yes,the only team in afc that can beat giants are steelers,titans,or colts,maybe sd.
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I'm pretty sure I understand what you're saying...haha

Let's go Giants!
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OOOO btw YOU will know by half time if YOU winner ATS

95% i notice when a fav dosent have spread Covered at half time YOU have a LOSS coming regardless if MNF or sunday or any other GAME

MY wager for tonight

Oct 13 11:09am Football - Pending 500.00 to win 500.00
1. Football - New York Giants - spread -9 (+100)
for the entire game held on Oct 13 at 7:35pm [pending]

Oct 13 11:15 am Football - Pending 500.00 to win 490.00
2. Football - Monday, October 13, 2008
New York Giants/Cleveland Browns Total Points Under 43 (-110)
for the entire game held on Oct 13 at 7:35pm [pending]

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Old 10-13-2008, 05:07 PM
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OOOO btw YOU will know by half time if YOU winner ATS

95% i notice when a fav dosent have spread Covered at half time YOU have a LOSS coming regardless if MNF or sunday or any other GAME

MY wager for tonight

Oct 13 11:09am Football - Pending 500.00 to win 500.00
1. Football - New York Giants - spread -9 (+100)
for the entire game held on Oct 13 at 7:35pm [pending]

Oct 13 11:15 am Football - Pending 500.00 to win 490.00
2. Football - Monday, October 13, 2008
New York Giants/Cleveland Browns Total Points Under 43 (-110)
for the entire game held on Oct 13 at 7:35pm [pending]
Ummm.....on your under bet at -110, wouldn't you have to wager 539.00 to win 490.00??? Either your book made an error or you tampered with the amount your wagered on your copy and paste.
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Old 10-13-2008, 05:34 PM
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Ummm.....on your under bet at -110, wouldn't you have to wager 539.00 to win 490.00??? Either your book made an error or you tampered with the amount your wagered on your copy and paste.
ghoopin your attention to detail is astonishing. Must be a Hawkeye
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um no g hopin it's -110 risk amount is 500 NOT 550

there fore it is correct risk 500 i win 490

risk 5.50 to win 5 or 5 to 4.90 same differnce 10% juice

IM risking 500 so I WIN 490 i get back 990 if i risk 550 to win 500 i get back 1050



also i went to chack a surviovor contest were you have to pick 17 st winners to win a 1000$ or 21 st wins to win $10,000 as i always do when there is only one game up either NFL or NCAA

well the laedr board 1st two groups thos with 7 wins or more

have GIANTS picked 13 times Brownies 7 times

10 over 43.5 5 unders

so as YOU can pretty even action all over

and they have 100,000's of members in that free contest

first two groups are 50 members in each page

NOT everyone has a pick tonight and some chose hockey or CFL games

I'm sticking to MY wager GIANTS - 9 even
UNDER 43.5 -110 5 units each !

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I bet the 88% number doesn't apply when it's 7 pts and higher
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risk 5.50 to win 5 or 5 to 4.90 same differnce 10% juice
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Old 10-13-2008, 05:59 PM
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ODDS Change boys look at this now

229 New York Giants -9 +105

I'm taking it 500 MORE to WIN 525

Oct 13 5:57pm Football - Pending 500 to win 525
1. Football - New York Giants - spread -9 (+105)
for the entire game held on Oct 13 at 7:35pm [pending]

BANG BOOM thank YOU !!!

Browns +9 is - 125 LOL every time i see this it's FAV winning even superbowl COLTS - 7.5 was +105 Bears +7.5 was - 125
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OK here is qtr half totals bets and all

Cleveland Browns for the Game
Spread +9 -125
Money Line +285
Game Total OVER 43 -110
Game Total UNDER 43 -110
Team Total OVER 17˝ even
Team Total UNDER 17˝ -130

Cleveland Browns for the First Half
Spread +5˝ -110
Money Line +210
Game Total OVER 21 -115
Game Total UNDER 21 -105

Cleveland Browns for the First Quarter
Spread +˝ even
Money Line +190
Game Total OVER 7˝ -105
Game Total UNDER 7˝ -115

Cleveland Browns for the Second Quarter
Spread +3˝ -125
Money Line +200
Game Total OVER 13˝ even
Game Total UNDER 13˝ -120


Cleveland Browns for the Third Quarter
Spread +˝ -110
Money Line +175
Game Total OVER 7˝ -115
Game Total UNDER 7˝ -105


Cleveland Browns for the Fourth Quarter
Spread +˝ -120
Money Line +150
Game Total OVER 12˝ -110
Game Total UNDER 12˝ -110
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Old 10-13-2008, 06:11 PM
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What am I missing about the math here.

I agree with risk 5.50 to win 5

but wouldn't it be risk 5 to win 4.55? Not 4.90. If you want to win 4.90 with 10% juice, you have to risk 4.90 x 1.10 = 5.39 like ghoopin said.
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Stop taking us for idiots......500 never will and never has brought back 490 on any bet in history.....-102, 510 will net you 500....no need to act like you are betting 500 on a game or tamper with a ticket......I dont think anyone thinks less or more of anyone because they bet more or less sine money is relative anyways....its all about winners and losers around here.....not amounts

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