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10-07-2009, 05:16 PM
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Mr. Monday night early MVP frontrunner?
I predicted Favre for MVP at the beginning at the year, and four games in he appears to be one of the frontrunners. Drew Breese has been having a nice season so far, but I'd like to here the argument that there is any other player in the league that means more to his team's success than Brett does for the Vikings.
Case in point was Monday night. In what was one of the biggest games of his career from a personal standpoint, with 22 million watching Favre absolutely carved the **** out of the packers. They keyed on All Day and Favre responded accordingly. Love him or hate him it's time to face facts.... Favre is the greatest to ever play, and what a fitting end would it be to his career to hoist the lombardi trophy after winning his unprecedented 4th league MVP. Nice move giving him away Thompson! You'll go down in infamy as the worst GM the league has ever seen along with your corpulent disgusting pig side kick mccarthy. I wonder what the favre detractors on this site can possibly say after Monday night's vindication?
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10-07-2009, 05:20 PM
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He has performed much better than I thought he would
however He's not even the most valuable player on his team, let alone in the league gl
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10-07-2009, 06:27 PM
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10-07-2009, 07:18 PM
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10-07-2009, 07:20 PM
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LOL at FAvre a frontrunner for league MVP. Cmon man.
Brees, Manning, AP. I even think Eli is playing great right now and could be considered.
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10-07-2009, 07:25 PM
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kyle orton closer to mvp frontrunner than favre
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10-07-2009, 07:25 PM
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manning brees and manning (eli) all ahead of him along w/ AP
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10-07-2009, 07:30 PM
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I think Eli HUGE right now, granted not ahead of Brees and Esp Peyton the way he is playing. BUt right now the Manning's could be 1 and 2. Eli been great.
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10-07-2009, 07:55 PM
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Looking at the numbers and QB rating from NFL.com, brees and p. manning only QB's ahead of Favre, Favre has 8 tds with 1 pick, for a 104.6 rating.
The point that p manning is extremely valuable to his team, as is brees is well taken. Both of these QB's don't have a rb of All Day's calibur, in fact no one in the league does. And I am not taking anything away from AP as most dominating back in the league. It just seems to me that Favre has completely revitalized this Viking team. It is early on in the season, but Favre has come in and made the whole team better. He is at least in the conversation for MVP, which was something the majority of the posters on this site would have never anticipated. It will be fun to see how the season plays out, if the Vikes keep winning don't sleep on Favre for his fourth MVP
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10-07-2009, 08:00 PM
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he was in the conversation for 9 weeks last year. I enjoy ur posts keep em coming
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10-07-2009, 08:05 PM
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i think all of the above is true - im still curious to see if he's playing this well in week 13, at his age its hard to believe he can - but if anyone can, it's probably him. But if you ask me - if he keeps throwing the ball as much as he is, he won't be performing this well later in the season. Its probably better for Vikings fans if he's NOT in the running for mvp, that means they're taking the load off him, and he'll be better rested for the stretch run. But maybe he can defy all odds and be a gunslinger for 19 weeks - I doubt it though
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10-07-2009, 08:41 PM
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Ill take any odds with you Favre doesnt win an MVP
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10-07-2009, 08:52 PM
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cj is obviously a brilliant writer, and obviously uses hyperbole to express his fondness of far-ve
truth be know though ted thompson did what was right for the packers at the time I think a lot of peoples hate for farve stems from his hijacking of the packers for 3 offseasons flirting with retirement, then coming back, then retiring, etc packers couldnt do it again, the team would have suffered couple that with his brilliant start and not so brilliant ending last season entirely due to injury by the way then some cant separate the above, from obviously seeing how good a qb he is his reads are as if he was 28 in his prime still... he does get some of the best pass protection in the league... but even then I dont think many could do it better... its obv not fair to compare his performance vs rodgers right now packers have a patchwork Oline, which never works btw moving a OG to OT...well you see the results sure Allen is a beast on adderall, but he shouldnt be getting 5 sacks on you in one night the only question with the vikings now are....im looking for one best run defense in the league, best running back in the league top 5 Qb when healthy, and what used to be an average secondary is looking great.. with Winfield especially I guess the only question is Favre...can he take an entire season at his age Still rate Saints and Giants a tad higher
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10-07-2009, 09:26 PM
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Romo I respect your opinion and usually we are on the same page about things in the NFL, but on the veracity of ted thompson's decision to let Favre go I must disagree.
Ted Thompson did not move Favre because he thought it was in the best interest of the packers, he moved farve because Teddy is a meglomaniac who wanted all of the credit for the 14-4 season and hated favre with a passion. Thompson had butted heads with Favre for years, refusing to pursue top free agents that Favre asked for including randy moss, talent that would have been most beneficial for the packers. Favre's indecision on his status for upcoming seasons was nothing new in GB, and I'm not justifying it. It would have been better for all parties had Favre not had a penchant for changing his mind. However the man had earned that right by all that he had done for the franchise. John Gruden's comment to Favre that he had gotten so many assistant coaches head coaching jobs, gruden, reid, chilly, to name a few is completely accurate. COUNTLESS people including all the GB fans rode Favre's coat tails to an unprecedented run of winning seasons in Green Bay. I am old enough to remember packer football before favre and it wasn't pretty, randy wright, forest gregg, the "magik" man... my earliest memories of football are my dad yelling at the tv screen as the packers lost yet another game. Favre changed all of that, and instituted a culture of winning which became so commonplace in Green Bay that I believe many fans and the management believed that it would continue no matter what. Couple that with Thompson's grandiose ideas about his ability to draft, his aversion to free agents, and his desire to claim all the credit for green bay's success, and you have a the greatest QB of all time run out of town. Ted Thompson did win in that regard, he got rid of brett and he now can take all the credit for the packers "success." Make no mistake, the team that Favre dismantled is Ted Thompson's team: teddy's QB, teddy's O-line, and the youngest team in football for the third year running. But what happened to that culture of winning? Teddy's team won 6 games last year, after winning 14 the year before. they are now 2-2 with a line that will most likely get thier "franchise" quarterback hurt before the year is done. Ted Thompson's backup is matt flynn, who has never started an NFL game. If Thompson wanted to do what was best for the franchise, he would have invested in free agency, and not released a qb who was coming off a 14 win pro-bowl season in which he finished 2nd in the MVP balloting. That is what makes Favre's performance so vindicating on monday night, the packers thought he was washed up, and he showed them, and the world that he is still an elite QB at 40 years old. Sky is the limit for the Vikings with favre at the helm, and I for one am content to sit back and enjoy the ride... Sorry for the Dostoevskian novel here, I guess I get carried away with the subject matter
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10-07-2009, 09:38 PM
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wow brother you make some great points that I obv was overlooking...
I wasnt as close to the situation but it makes sense now. Especially the coaching tree that formed from the early 90s packer teams. I think Favre can coach west coast offense better than most coaches I thought it was funny when some said he would be "rusty"...please Might as well call him Bill Walsh with a rocket arm I do think Rodgers is a fine QB, but without the Oline for what? he drafted a few that have panned out on the defensive side of the ball but for the most part I guess not so much, Packers have a decent secondary but played awful Monday a few overpriced yet good players in free agency of late too I guess that really falls on the front 7 who got zero with a capital z pressure favre is the man no doubt, I used to fall into the group that hated his performance (clouded) because of oversaturated media coverage, but fact is he deserves the attention and reality is he doesnt ask for as much attention as he gets... Hes an icon and still playing at a high level so are you a Viking fan for his tenure only? lol
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