No debate anymore: Peyton Manning is the NFL MVP

[jonnyblaze]

As a Pats fan hard to admit, however, as a sports fan and handicapper, there is nothing left to debate on this one. Brees and Favre late season swoons make it clear. I think Lord P had it anyway as his team was playing better with less talent than the other two. Rivers could make a claim as well to be in the top three, as Favre, while he had a great season, is doing his late season shit again and Brees has no business getting shut out in a half of play against Tampa.

Congrats Lord P, your the games best this year.

[upinya83]

rivers 2nd

[Dr. Jack]

and not even a close second. Second will probably go to Rivers or Brees

[rjb1816]

like i said i've argued this til im blue in the face...he's a great qb but he's not that much in front of the other guys. his numbers are not that impressive when compared to other top qbs. he wins because the media votes on it and they all love him

[Lawnshark21]

Payton is the most efficient and effective player I have ever seen play the position. He wins hands down with Rivers then Brees second and third respectively imo.

[westcoastO]

i simulated the entire 2009-2010 season in madden a little while ago and in a surprising twist the award went to tony romo, sorry for the spoiler

[Patriots Game]

Originally Posted by jonnyblaze

As a Pats fan hard to admit, however, as a sports fan and handicapper, there is nothing left to debate on this one. Brees and Favre late season swoons make it clear. I think Lord P had it anyway as his team was playing better with less talent than the other two. Rivers could make a claim as well to be in the top three, as Favre, while he had a great season, is doing his late season shit again and Brees has no business getting shut out in a half of play against Tampa.

Congrats Lord P, your the games best this year.

i said this to my buddy last nite

[rjb1816]

Just for a frame of reference...because i like to debate. People that say its not close need to look closer at the numbers


Over the past two seasons, which is a larger scope and a better judge for level of play


Rivers has a higher qb rating, a higher ypa by a full yard, 61 tds to 20 ints (Manning only 60 tds to 27 ints) as well as a head to head win over mr. manning in the playoffs.

So please spare me the its not even close bs cuz it's simply not true

[Dr. Jack]

Rjb - it's not just about numbers. Peyton is like a machine. It's like you click him on & he scores a td. It's amazing really.

[rjb1816]

what else is it about? mvp awards are ALWAYS based off numbers, in every sport. its why defensive players never win it

[cuse_man]

games best every year

[jonnyblaze]

Originally Posted by rjb1816

like i said i've argued this til im blue in the face...he's a great qb but he's not that much in front of the other guys. his numbers are not that impressive when compared to other top qbs. he wins because the media votes on it and they all love him

[Deck]

manning mvp 100 percent. the team would not be the same without him. isnt that what a mvp is?

[Bisket]

there's no debate: Rivers will be super bowl mvp this year

[rjb1816]

Originally Posted by Deck

manning mvp 100 percent. the team would not be the same without him. isnt that what a mvp is?

Just because they have a shitty backup doesn't mean anything. Chargers would be in the same boat