The Patriots Dynasty

[upinya83]

Is it over?

Sure, they still have Brady - but the entire defense has been changed - and lets face it, the defense is what made this team great - was it the players or the coaching?

[RanPicks]

it's a combo - but they won't win S until that Defense is fixed...

[huscroft6]

Its been over

And yes theri d is so mediocre. Warren is always banged up. Their LB core consists of Adalius Thomas who has been such a bust, Gary Guyton et al. Mayo only good one there. And they have 2 castoffs on the corner in Bodden and Springs, another dumb signing. And the younger guys like Willhite, Sanders, McGowan dont seem to me that they will be anything other than decent. Merriweather should be solid. Basically only actual playmaker on D is Mayo. Theyve done a great job at letting guys go at the right time, but 1 major mistake was Asante. Playmaking CB in his prime. What does he have, 7 INT's this year with 5 games left?

[keyser soze]

It's funny that you should bring this up because I've considered them overhyped for years now. Most people in the national media routinely talk about the Patriots as if they are the team to beat and defending champions. The fact of the matter is, they haven't won a championship since 2004. I'm not saying I don't respect them or that I don't think they are always a threat in the playoffs. I'm just saying that they aren't the overbearing "dynasty" that people make them out of be. They are a top-flight organization and deserve a ton of respect for all of the success they have had over the last decade. But they simply aren't THE team to beat anymore.

[Dr. Jack]

Done

[upinya83]

Originally Posted by keyser soze

It's funny that you should bring this up because I've considered them overhyped for years now.

didnt they go 16-0 the year before last?

[keyser soze]

Originally Posted by upinya83

didnt they go 16-0 the year before last?

Yes, they sure did. And you can call me crazy but I never considered them an all-time great team. Because as dominant as that offense was, they were horribly unbalanced and that always costs teams in big games. They just never ran the ball enough to slow down top flight pass rushes. Their defense was old and slow. They were an excellent team but they really lost to Baltimore and if the Chargers were healthy they may not have even gotten out of the AFC Championship game.

[upinya83]

Originally Posted by keyser soze

Yes, they sure did. And you can call me crazy but I never considered them an all-time great team. Because as dominant as that offense was, they are horribly unbalanced and that always costs you in big games. They had a mediocre running game and an old defense. They were an excellent team but they really lost to Baltimore and if the Chargers were healthy they may not have even gotten out of the AFC Championship game.

I agree with that - but even then their "old" defense was worlds better than their defense is now

and of course, they still have zero running game

[keyser soze]

Originally Posted by upinya83

I agree with that - but even then their "old" defense was worlds better than their defense is now

and of course, they still have zero running game

very true.

[rjb1816]

if Brady plays as shitty as he did last night it's way done...god he looked like cutler out there

[Windy City Irish]

I cant and wont complain after the SB wins this decade. guess it will be playoffs this year with one and done

but yes...."so called dynasty" days are over....

[RanPicks]

Originally Posted by Windy City Irish

but yes...."so called dynasty" days are over....

welcome to the Cowboys of the late 90's and 00's lol

[ZIGGYSTARDUST]

Originally Posted by Windy City Irish

I cant and wont complain after the SB wins this decade. guess it will be playoffs this year with one and done

but yes...."so called dynasty" days are over....

Chin up WC... Nothing wrong with being the 2nd best franchise in the history of the NFL during the SB era.. Cant win every year.. Pitt first.. Pats second.. nice ring to it.. No?....

[cuse_man]

Originally Posted by keyser soze

It's funny that you should bring this up because I've considered them overhyped for years now. Most people in the national media routinely talk about the Patriots as if they are the team to beat and defending champions. The fact of the matter is, they haven't won a championship since 2004. I'm not saying I don't respect them or that I don't think they are always a threat in the playoffs. I'm just saying that they aren't the overbearing "dynasty" that people make them out of be. They are a top-flight organization and deserve a ton of respect for all of the success they have had over the last decade. But they simply aren't THE team to beat anymore.

agree with mr. soze

[Romanowski]

niners were a bigger dynasty IMO than Pats ziggy

back on topic not only did we see pats dynasty end...

we saw passing of torch to best coach in the league