Who Starts for Pitt

[cman]

Is it Batch or who?

wde

[Sweetleaf22]

Leftwitch maybe Dixon

[guzzi]

slasher...

[Steel]

Lefty will get the nod.

[Earl]

yeah but how many games does he win for Pitt? 1 maybe 2. Pitts offense supports a mobile quarterback. Lefty is far from Mobile and he take till X-mas to get rid of the ball. Steelers offensive line is going to hate this guy

[Burgh Brew Crew]

I think a different scheme will start to be utilized in pgh. Last year really showed how the defensive scheme does not match up with a passing offense. The defense got exposed/worn down the longer it was on the field. The steelers inability to run the ball helped contribute to this. No especially with a replacement quarterback at the helm, the steelers should attempt to utilize mendenhall and quite possibly dwyer. Mwelde will still be used primarily as a passing down back but can can the rock in a pinch. So if the steelers truely get back to smash mouth football that might squeek by at 2 and 2 for the first four weeks

[Romanowski]

exactly burgh, which is why they drafted pouncey, to run the ball

they needed to change from what was mostly a spread offense regardless if ben was suspended or not

[Sweetleaf22]

Originally Posted by Burgh Brew Crew

I think a different scheme will start to be utilized in pgh. Last year really showed how the defensive scheme does not match up with a passing offense. The defense got exposed/worn down the longer it was on the field. The steelers inability to run the ball helped contribute to this. No especially with a replacement quarterback at the helm, the steelers should attempt to utilize mendenhall and quite possibly dwyer. Mwelde will still be used primarily as a passing down back but can can the rock in a pinch. So if the steelers truely get back to smash mouth football that might squeek by at 2 and 2 for the first four weeks

Yeh, But that will not happen untill BA is gone.


Kind of why we were on that fire BA bandwagon.

[ZIGGYSTARDUST]

Originally Posted by Romanowski

exactly burgh, which is why they drafted pouncey, to run the ball

they needed to change from what was mostly a spread offense regardless if ben was suspended or not

Actually IMO they ran enough but just were not very good at it.. Pitt ran it 428 times and threw 536.. Pretty much NFL average.. Dallas with better backs ran it 436 times and threw it 550.. Even a team like the Vikes with a stud at rb ran it only 467 times (2.5 more a game then Pitt) Peterson is worth the 2 extra carries a game.. Pitt fans have to figure it out .. This is the new NFL with rule changes benefiting the passing game.. Add on the fact you have a QB you are paying 100 million (and by the way had 26 tds &12 ints last year) its makes no sense to go back to 3 yards and a cloud of dust .. Look at the last 4 years in the NFL the good teams all put it up.. As for BBC contention the defense was tired.. Please ... They were suspected to the pass due to Troy and Smiths injuries.. Plus the fact that William Gay was one of the worst DB's in the NFL last year if not the worst.. Franco aint coming bacl people get used to the ball in the air.. They did not draft the likes of Wallace and this years 3rd rounder to block.. They fly.. Its a new era for Pitt foorball and the NFL for that matter.. Pouncey was brought in to block on the run but not for more carries just to do it better..IMO

[BigFratDaddy]

Dixon should start. Lefty is 2nd string. Batch 3rd

[Sweetleaf22]

Originally Posted by Burgh Brew Crew

and quite possibly dwyer. Mwelde will still be used primarily as a passing down back but can can the rock in a pinch. So if the steelers truely get back to smash mouth football that might squeek by at 2 and 2 for the first four weeks

Someone say Barry Foster Trip opt Clone


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq9Ym...yer_embedded#!
Steel of the draft here.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-g4N...yer_embedded#!

[mrwho]

leftwich will start 1 game until they realize he is horrible then prob dixon...

[Romanowski]

Originally Posted by ZIGGYSTARDUST

. Pitt fans have to figure it out .. This is the new NFL with rule changes benefiting the passing game.. Add on the fact you have a QB you are paying 100 million (and by the way had 26 tds &12 ints last year) its makes no sense to go back to 3 yards and a cloud of dust .. Look at the last 4 years in the NFL the good teams all put it up.. Franco aint coming bacl people get used to the ball in the air.. They did not draft the likes of Wallace and this years 3rd rounder to block.. They fly.. Its a new era for Pitt foorball and the NFL for that matter.. Pouncey was brought in to block on the run but not for more carries just to do it better..IMO

Trust me, ive been saying for quite some time the best teams dont necessarily run the ball and play defense in the NFL any longer, the best teams have both offensive passing efficiency and defense against the pass efficiency, but you need to run the ball effectively as well.

The Saints ranked in the top 6 in both running the ball and passing...

You need to have a balance, yet pass first, and Pitt found themselves passing a bit too much and many times not even trying to run the ball...because like you said despite efforts they failed to..

[Burgh Brew Crew]

Originally Posted by ZIGGYSTARDUST

Actually IMO they ran enough but just were not very good at it.. Pitt ran it 428 times and threw 536.. Pretty much NFL average.. Dallas with better backs ran it 436 times and threw it 550.. Even a team like the Vikes with a stud at rb ran it only 467 times (2.5 more a game then Pitt) Peterson is worth the 2 extra carries a game.. Pitt fans have to figure it out .. This is the new NFL with rule changes benefiting the passing game.. Add on the fact you have a QB you are paying 100 million (and by the way had 26 tds &12 ints last year) its makes no sense to go back to 3 yards and a cloud of dust .. Look at the last 4 years in the NFL the good teams all put it up.. As for BBC contention the defense was tired.. Please ... They were suspected to the pass due to Troy and Smiths injuries.. Plus the fact that William Gay was one of the worst DB's in the NFL last year if not the worst.. Franco aint coming bacl people get used to the ball in the air.. They did not draft the likes of Wallace and this years 3rd rounder to block.. They fly.. Its a new era for Pitt foorball and the NFL for that matter.. Pouncey was brought in to block on the run but not for more carries just to do it better..IMO

I understand the rules changes causing a pass happy NFL but my contention about a tired defense comes from an excessive level of three and outs because they lacked the ability to covert short yardage situation (ineffective run blocking/running) and also the inability to shorten the game when you have the lead in the fourth quarter. When you constantly placed a defensive line that average 30+ along with a near 30 linebacker core for an extra 10 to 20 snaps again it takes it toll. Controlling the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball controls the game. If you cant control the line on offensive eventually the defense gets worn down. I am not debating the personnel on the field because as a team the Steelers were able to hide an avg secondary in zones because of pressure. Heck they even made some defenders seem better than they were and reap excessive free agent contracts Mcfadden and Scott come to mind.
That said a defense that relies on pressure must get pressure or face exposure. Problem is constant pressure fatigues even the best conditioned athletes. Also, when the defense is put on the field repeatedly late in the games eventually the will crumble. Has anyone else noticed that the majority of the teams that run a 3-4 defense that predicates its defensive scheme on blitzes and pressure typically have an offense that runs the ball effectively?

[ZIGGYSTARDUST]

Originally Posted by Burgh Brew Crew

I understand the rules changes causing a pass happy NFL but my contention about a tired defense comes from an excessive level of three and outs because they lacked the ability to covert short yardage situation (ineffective run blocking/running) and also the inability to shorten the game when you have the lead in the fourth quarter. When you constantly placed a defensive line that average 30+ along with a near 30 linebacker core for an extra 10 to 20 snaps again it takes it toll. Controlling the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball controls the game. If you cant control the line on offensive eventually the defense gets worn down. I am not debating the personnel on the field because as a team the Steelers were able to hide an avg secondary in zones because of pressure. Heck they even made some defenders seem better than they were and reap excessive free agent contracts Mcfadden and Scott come to mind.
That said a defense that relies on pressure must get pressure or face exposure. Problem is constant pressure fatigues even the best conditioned athletes. Also, when the defense is put on the field repeatedly late in the games eventually the will crumble. Has anyone else noticed that the majority of the teams that run a 3-4 defense that predicates its defensive scheme on blitzes and pressure typically have an offense that runs the ball effectively?

Agree ... Pitt was horrid when they needed short yardage.. Thats my point also .. They ran enough just were not very good at it.. Got most of their running yards after the passing game opened it up for them with some first down throws.. Agree must get better at it .. Hope new number one helps.. Was hoping they were going to take Brown from USC in the 2nd round and just go all in on the o-line this year.. But opted for a LB.. Maybe why I hated that pick in that place the most..