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Old 02-13-2009, 10:06 AM
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John Paxson Resigning

It is about time!

Seeee yaaaaaaa buddddddddyyyyyyyy
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Old 02-13-2009, 10:07 AM
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The Bulls were so close. Remember when they almost got Kobe for Leng, etc but didn't want to break up the Bulls. lol
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Old 02-13-2009, 10:42 AM
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The Bulls were so close. Remember when they almost got Kobe for Leng, etc but didn't want to break up the Bulls. lol
Paxson fell in love too much with his "core". He thought Deng-Gordon-Kirk were going to win multiple NBA titles. He had numerous chances get rid of them for Garnett, Gasol, Kobe, but refused too. Add in trading LaMarcus Aldridge for Tyrus Thomas and drafting Noah, the guy failed.

He should thank God Derrick Rose fell into his lap.
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There is a lot more here than him resigning due to bad deals.

Pax has a son who has joined the Marines and maybe reality set in.

The NBA is different today and when Gordon and Deng turned down $50M + contracts (which now may be impossible to attain due to the economy) he was shocked, as he thought he had players who knew there was no "I" in team.

He also had DeAntonio ready to become the coach, but Reinsdorph delayed making a decision because he is a jagoff and thought he should get him for less money than NY offered, and before he had a chance to rethink his options, ink was on a NY Contract. Then he had Collins ready to go and once again Reinsdorph stepped in and killed the deal because he didn't want to ruin his relationship and one day have Collins fired.

Last Tuesday at the HT ceremony for Red Kerr, Pax was booed by the fans when he was introduced and I am sure he had some issues with this.

He is probably staying around til after the trading deadline as he is in the middle of making a trade for Staudimire.

It is amazing how Bull players just don't reach their potential til they leave..Chandler and Duhan, and now Deng is having a crap season.
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Old 02-13-2009, 10:51 AM
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^^^^^^

I wouldn't say "Duhon is reaching his potential". He plays in that wide-open system on a team that refuses to play defense. His only job on the Knicks is to spread the ball around and run. Same with Chandler. Tyson was always able to rebound, he just never could score. You team him with the best point guard in the league and he improves. Watch a Hornets game. Tyson scores on backdoor alley-oops and put backs. The guy isn't exactly sinking 14-foot jumpers.

I agree with the rest though. Deng and Gordon turning down $10+ million a year needs to really mind-f#ck a GM. Two roles players turning down huge contracts... HA
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Old 02-13-2009, 11:46 AM
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Why did the need D'Antoni? They should have kept Skiles
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:00 PM
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The Bulls were never close to getting Kobe for Deng. That was media hype, no truth to it whatsoever.

Reinsdorf recently criticized the Bulls coaches big-time. Wouldn't suprise me if Reinsdorf wanted to make a change and Paxson refused.

I actually have my doubts that this will happen, but if it does nothing but the best to Johnny Jump Shot.
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PAXSON HAS NOT RESIGNED..... NON CREDIBLE SOURCE BROKE THIs
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Old 02-13-2009, 05:33 PM
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Why did the need D'Antoni? They should have kept Skiles
They needed D'An because they didn't have a coach

Skiles wanted out. He met with Pax and basically told him a change of coaching was needed..Players were not responding to his style anymore. IMO, it started when they brought Big Ben, and I think he poisoned the water the young team was drinking, supplied by Skiles.


And from what I know, the deal on Gasol was going to put the Bulls into luxuary tax status so once again, Old Tightass nixed the deal. The Bulls were sold out then and he woudn't pop for the extra dough, so other than possibly getting more trophy's he couldn't see the value, imo.

His team, his money, he makes the decisions, good or bad.

Probably good because Rose may not have landed on their doorstep
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Old 02-13-2009, 06:26 PM
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PAXSON HAS NOT RESIGNED..... NON CREDIBLE SOURCE BROKE THIs
a direct quote from Jerry Reinsdorf... not bad
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Old 02-13-2009, 07:27 PM
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The Bulls were never close to getting Kobe for Deng. That was media hype, no truth to it whatsoever.

Reinsdorf recently criticized the Bulls coaches big-time. Wouldn't suprise me if Reinsdorf wanted to make a change and Paxson refused.

I actually have my doubts that this will happen, but if it does nothing but the best to Johnny Jump Shot.
actually kobe bryant, after resigning with the lakers 3 (i think) years back, said on PTI "i was a phone call away from a sign and trade with the Bulls"

and kobe was quite interested in coming to chicago after that too, but would have vetoed any trade involving deng as he wanted to play with him and the bulls didn't want to part with deng anyway.

it wouldn't have been kobe for deng straight up either, i don't remember every piece of the puzzle, but there was truth to it, not sure where you are getting that there wasn't. kobe has twice been plenty interested in playing here.
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Old 02-13-2009, 07:31 PM
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Paxson fell in love too much with his "core". He thought Deng-Gordon-Kirk were going to win multiple NBA titles. He had numerous chances get rid of them for Garnett, Gasol, Kobe, but refused too. Add in trading LaMarcus Aldridge for Tyrus Thomas and drafting Noah, the guy failed.

He should thank God Derrick Rose fell into his lap.
drafting noah was not a "bad" move at all.

take a look at who went after noah, in order:

Spencer Hawes, Acie Law, Thaddeus Young, Julian Wright, Al Thornton, Rodney Stuckey, Nick Young, Sean Williams, Marco Belinelli, Javaris Crittenton, Jason Smith, Daequan Cook.......

are you starting to see a pattern here? I'm sure most will point out Thornton because hindsight is 20/20, but that's too convenient. No one was all that high on him coming out of school and they wouldn't draft Stuckey since they had 100 guards at the time.

i'm also happy he didn't bite on gasol. would have been a dumb trade for the bulls as it would have brought us no closer to a ring other than MAYBE the eastern conference finals. i would rather take a chance on young guys turning into something than getting gasol and adding 7 wins to a season where you might win a playoff series or 2.
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Old 02-13-2009, 07:43 PM
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actually kobe bryant, after resigning with the lakers 3 (i think) years back, said on PTI "i was a phone call away from a sign and trade with the Bulls"

and kobe was quite interested in coming to chicago after that too, but would have vetoed any trade involving deng as he wanted to play with him and the bulls didn't want to part with deng anyway.

it wouldn't have been kobe for deng straight up either, i don't remember every piece of the puzzle, but there was truth to it, not sure where you are getting that there wasn't. kobe has twice been plenty interested in playing here.
Rumored details of the 2007 Kobe trade....

"The Lakers are asking for a package built around Luol Deng, Ben Gordon, Tyrus Thomas and Joakim Noah, which is more than Chicago is willing to surrender. Also, Bryant would not want to play in Chicago if the Bulls surrendered all four of those players, believing there would not be enough talent left to compete for a championship, and he would veto that trade even if the Bulls and Lakers were both in favor of it."
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Old 02-13-2009, 07:59 PM
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Rumored details of the 2007 Kobe trade....

"The Lakers are asking for a package built around Luol Deng, Ben Gordon, Tyrus Thomas and Joakim Noah, which is more than Chicago is willing to surrender. Also, Bryant would not want to play in Chicago if the Bulls surrendered all four of those players, believing there would not be enough talent left to compete for a championship, and he would veto that trade even if the Bulls and Lakers were both in favor of it."
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drafting noah was not a "bad" move at all.

take a look at who went after noah, in order:

Spencer Hawes, Acie Law, Thaddeus Young, Julian Wright, Al Thornton, Rodney Stuckey, Nick Young, Sean Williams, Marco Belinelli, Javaris Crittenton, Jason Smith, Daequan Cook.......

are you starting to see a pattern here? I'm sure most will point out Thornton because hindsight is 20/20, but that's too convenient. No one was all that high on him coming out of school and they wouldn't draft Stuckey since they had 100 guards at the time.

i'm also happy he didn't bite on gasol. would have been a dumb trade for the bulls as it would have brought us no closer to a ring other than MAYBE the eastern conference finals. i would rather take a chance on young guys turning into something than getting gasol and adding 7 wins to a season where you might win a playoff series or 2.
marco belinelli is going to revolutionize the way we think about basketball son, just wait.... in 3 years people will say marco > lebron or kobe
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