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Old 06-07-2011, 11:34 PM
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Riley should coach the team.

If I was Pat Riley I would fire Spoelstra immediately or make him an assistant and coach these last 3 games. I know that sounds asinine but its not everyday a team gets to the finals and its obvious Spoelstra is not only over matched by Carlisle in terms of game strategy but has this guy every drawn up something that actually worked late in a close game? I understand the blame usually falls on the players but the coach has got to do something to put his players in a better spot. This series should/could be over and at the worst 3-1 and a huge part of the blame falls on the coach. Maybe Larry Brown should coach this team next year or just someone competent to run a big time team.

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R u kidding? I hope so.
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I know it sounds asinine and has an actual .000000001% chance of actually happening but I'll bet Riley is thinking now what a big mistake with this guy running the show.

Absolutely not 1 adjustment made the entire 4th quarter or any type of play called that actually has a legit shot at working.

You actually think this coach in his current state is worth a lick?

Lemme rephrase.....Do you think Dallas wins game 2 or game 4 if Riley is the coach?

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Lemme rephrase.....Do you think Dallas wins game 2 or game 4 if Riley is the coach?

this. i agree.
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In reality his team had played better for 180 minutes this series and he got out coached 5 minutes tonight.

He didn't need any adjustments he just lost.

He got handed a thin ass bench to coach and it finally caught up with them.
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In reality his team had played better for 180 minutes this series and he got out coached 5 minutes tonight.

He didn't need any adjustments he just lost.

He got handed a thin ass bench to coach and it finally caught up with them.
Sorry I will disagree with the not needing to adjust statement. When his team scored 4 pts in an 8:24 stretch of the 4th quarter in a potential knockout punch game in the NBA Finals something needed to get done.

I'm not a coach nor do I pretend to be but I would've started calling clearouts for Lebron and Wade and just start attacking the rim and forcing the refs to make a call.

Dallas deserves credit but that ending was won by default and any decent coach would've pulled it out. Carlisle is running circles around this idiot.

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The Mavs out played them. He has a thin bench and Lebron was tired. It's not his fault.

Sometimes you get beat but calling for his head here is ridiculous.

You could see the Heat become a cohesive dominant unit towards the seasons end.

Their defense is incredible and Wade and Bron have always been ISO players. Sometimes that gets you beat.
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Old 06-08-2011, 12:11 AM
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you cant draw up plays against the zone on the fly

dallas is the only team in the nba that makes it work
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The Mavs out played them. He has a thin bench and Lebron was tired. It's not his fault.

Sometimes you get beat but calling for his head here is ridiculous.

You could see the Heat become a cohesive dominant unit towards the seasons end.

Their defense is incredible and Wade and Bron have always been ISO players. Sometimes that gets you beat.
Lebron was tired? This guy is 26 and a conditioned athlete. If he is tired then its poor conditioning and thats an even bigger problem.

And I am calling for his head as a fan....not some media outlet or someone that actually has a say but I swear if he fires him tomorrow I would whole heartedly agree.

Regular season and postseason can't be compared IMO and great players aren't supposed to get beat like this. One collapse in the Finals is excusable to some degree but a second one and its now a trend.

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you cant draw up plays against the zone on the fly

dallas is the only team in the nba that makes it work
If what you are saying that Spoelstra shoulders no blame because 'you cant draw up plays against the zone on the fly' then I will say he didn't have team prepared which is an even bigger problem than making the in game adjustment.

4 pts is inexcusable in an 8:24 stretch of any game by any team at anytime.

But lets look at it again this isn't any team and the time is the NBA Finals. Having Spoelstra as their coach is like having a brand new Ferarri being driven down the road at 160 mph with bald tires.

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Lbj was tired. Lmao. And you want to put him in the same class as mj? Lmao. Lbj = sp = km.
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In reality his team had played better for 180 minutes this series and he got out coached 5 minutes tonight.

He didn't need any adjustments he just lost.

He got handed a thin ass bench to coach and it finally caught up with them.
Then how do you explain the strategy of not doubling Dirk to force someone else to beat you...ridiculous.
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Old 06-08-2011, 10:27 AM
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Then how do you explain the strategy of not doubling Dirk to force someone else to beat you...ridiculous.

It worked in GM 3.....

I mean the guy was shooting like shit all game
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Old 06-08-2011, 10:33 AM
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100% disagree Pimp. Spoelstra is underrated if anything. He's great at making adjustments and can scheme with the best of them. The team still young with each other and it's the NBA finals playing the best or second best team in the NBA. Dallas is a great home team and it's a game of runs. Give Dallas credit, it's not like they suck or something.

As far as doubling Dirk - sometimes they do, sometimes don't. Hard to question the job the Heat defense has done with decisions like that. I mean Dirk is a great great offensive player, of course he will make plays that make defenses look bad at times.

The collapse in game 2 just happened. Dallas blew a 23 point lead to Portland. It's really how you bounce back.

2 out of 3. Should be a great finish
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Old 06-08-2011, 10:52 AM
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If what you are saying that Spoelstra shoulders no blame because 'you cant draw up plays against the zone on the fly' then I will say he didn't have team prepared which is an even bigger problem than making the in game adjustment.

4 pts is inexcusable in an 8:24 stretch of any game by any team at anytime.
But lets look at it again this isn't any team and the time is the NBA Finals. Having Spoelstra as their coach is like having a brand new Ferarri being driven down the road at 160 mph with bald tires.

That happens alot. It happened to Dallas too. They scored 1 point in almost 6 minutes (exactlly 5:52) at the end of the third and start of the forth. There was a stretch in game 2 also where Dallas scored 1 point in 6 minutes and 17 seconds. Teams have runs like that sometimes.
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