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Old 11-25-2018, 09:03 PM
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Old 11-27-2018, 09:09 AM
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The press is freaking out about the use of tear gas over the weekend, claiming all kinds of human rights violations, and making sure to describe the migrants as "women and children," despite 90% of the caravan being men. As usual, they're also throwing around the word "unprecedented" a lot. To the media that were asleep for 8 years of Obama, everything is "unprecedented."

From the Washington Times:

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The same tear-gas agent that the Trump administration is taking heat for deploying against a border mob this weekend is actually used fairly frequently — including more than once a month during the later years of President Barack Obama’s administration, according to Homeland Security data.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection has used 2-chlorobenzylidene malononitrile, or CS, since 2010, and deployed it 26 times in fiscal 2012 and 27 times in 2013. The use dropped after that, but was still deployed three times in 2016, Mr. Obama’s final full year in office.
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Border authorities also use another agent, pepper spray, frequently — including a decade-high record of 151 instances in 2013, also under Mr. Obama.
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Old 11-27-2018, 04:29 PM
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Under Obama - Border Patrol Agents used tear gas, pepper spray more than 500 Times
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Old 11-27-2018, 04:59 PM
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Imagine showing up to the border in China, France, Canada, etc., throwing rocks and demanding to be let in.

Think they'd just open up the gates, because you say so?
lololol, canada!! RCMP would arrest em, hence they would get in! then trudope would give them 10 mil for some fucked up reason.
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I dont always talk to democrats,,, but when I do I order fries.
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Old 11-28-2018, 12:31 PM
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lololol, canada!! RCMP would arrest em, hence they would get in! then trudope would give them 10 mil for some fucked up reason.
I feel your pain T...

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Old 11-28-2018, 01:30 PM
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Electoral vote 36
Popular vote 4,685,047 3,877,868
Percentage 52.23% 43.24%

Mr. Trump 304-36=268 or 2 votes short.

If one million more votes could be had in Texas, the Dem candidate could win.





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Old 11-28-2018, 03:35 PM
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Rust belt not falling for his "Fake Promises" in 2020. They thought they had nothing to lose by giving him a chance. After all he did state, "Vote for me and not ONE PLANT will close."

Well, just like Mexico paying for the wall, and getting the wall built, ending the much desired Obamacare, the plants are closing and the stockholders are saying thanks. The workers however, just need to drive around town and see all those signs stating "We're hiring." Fast food restaurants, Walmart's, Target, etc. All those high paying jobs that the immigrants would be happy to take, pay the taxes and even take cheap paying jobs rebuilding our worn down infrastructures, just like the immigrant Irish and Chinese did.

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Old 11-28-2018, 03:41 PM
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Electoral vote 36
Popular vote 4,685,047 3,877,868
Percentage 52.23% 43.24%

Mr. Trump 304-36=268 or 2 votes short.

If one million more votes could be had in Texas, the Dem candidate could win.







A million? LMAO, Looks like 217,000 gets the job done, FOREVER in Texas


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Old 11-28-2018, 04:29 PM
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Electoral vote 36
Popular vote 4,685,047 3,877,868
Percentage 52.23% 43.24%

Mr. Trump 304-36=268 or 2 votes short.

If one million more votes could be had in Texas, the Dem candidate could win.






Texas won't be blue in 2020.

But Trump should be very worried about this math:


Pennsylvania 20

Michigan 16

Wisconsin 10


Those were 46 electoral votes in 2016 that I don't think will go his way in 2020. Lots of time and it also depends on who Dems run but those states voted loud and clear in the midterms and the razor thin margins from 2016 were easily reversed.

I would imagine a small number of other states could flip one way or the other but those 3 states will play a huge role in 2020.
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:58 PM
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GM plant is closing in Canada, too. 2500+ jobs lost. GM is a piece of shit and like Trump said, should have to pay it back to both our governments/taxpayers money. They will probably close the other plant in St. Catherine's eventually as well. More jobs lost here.

I'm not blaming Trudeau for this plant closing and 2500+ jobs being lost. I'd like to, but it's not truly his fault.
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Old 11-29-2018, 11:02 AM
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Intergovernmental Conference on the Global Compact for Migration

This is some kind of UN gibberish speak that the EU allow migration.


10 — 11 December 2018 Marrakech, Morocco


The draft outcome document of the Conference

Note by the President of the General Assembly

1. In its resolution 72/244, the General Assembly reaffirmed its decision that the Intergovernmental Conference to Adopt the Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration would result in the adoption of an intergovernmentally negotiated and agreed outcome, entitled “Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration”, and that the outcome of the intergovernmental negotiations held pursuant to its resolution 71/280 would be transmitted by the President of the General
Assembly to the Intergovernmental Conference for adoption.

2. The text of the agreed outcome of the intergovernmental negotiations held
pursuant to resolution 71/280 and led by the co-facilitators, Juan José Gómez Camacho (Mexico) and Jürg Lauber (Switzerland), on Friday, 13 July 2018 (see annex), is hereby transmitted to the Conference for adoption, in accordance with paragraph 6 (b) of resolution 72/244.

72/244.

Modalities for the Intergovernmental Conference to Adopt the
Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration
The General Assembly, Recalling its resolution 71/1 of 19 September 2016, entitled “New York Declaration for Refugees and Migrants”, and the launch of a process of intergovernmental negotiations leading to the adoption of a global compact for safe, orderly and regular migration at an intergovernmental conference to be held in 2018,

Recalling also its resolution 71/280 of 6 April 2017 on the modalities for the
intergovernmental negotiations of the global compact for safe, orderly and regular migration, Reaffirming that the global compact for safe, orderly and regular migration would set out a range of principles, commitments and understandings among Member States regarding international migration in all its dimensions, make an important contribution to global governance and enhance coordination on international migration, present a framework for comprehensive international cooperation on migrants and human mobility, deal with all aspects of international migration, including the humanitarian, developmental, human rights-related and other aspects of migration and be guided by the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development 1 and the
Addis Ababa Action Agenda of the Third International Conference on Financing for Development2 and informed by the Declaration of the High-level Dialogue onInternational Migration and Development adopted in October 2013,
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Old 11-29-2018, 02:28 PM
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GM plant is closing in Canada, too. 2500+ jobs lost. GM is a piece of shit and like Trump said, should have to pay it back to both our governments/taxpayers money. They will probably close the other plant in St. Catherine's eventually as well. More jobs lost here.

I'm not blaming Trudeau for this plant closing and 2500+ jobs being lost. I'd like to, but it's not truly his fault.
I saw Chumpie was quoting some stats about migrant families receiving about $3400, compared to an average SS payment of 1200. Seems he once again got his facts sorta twisted. I believe I read the 3400 was a one time , for one family payment to a CANADIAN family, not a thing to do with the US.. More bullshit he hears and tweets and retweets.

PPM, as a TRUE Chumpie, w/o a vote, can you support Chump on this? Or was it in fact a Canadian family?

As a Conservative, do you have an opinion about the increase in the U S debt by about 50% over Obamas last year?

Debt going up, interest going up, how the fuck do we handle this? More tax cuts, especially to the rich and corporations?
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Old 11-29-2018, 04:22 PM
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At least 10 migrant women go on hunger strike at U.S.-Mexico border to protest living conditions and pressure the United States to speed up processing requests for asylum


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Old 11-29-2018, 07:27 PM
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I saw Chumpie was quoting some stats about migrant families receiving about $3400, compared to an average SS payment of 1200. Seems he once again got his facts sorta twisted. I believe I read the 3400 was a one time , for one family payment to a CANADIAN family, not a thing to do with the US.. More bullshit he hears and tweets and retweets.

PPM, as a TRUE Chumpie, w/o a vote, can you support Chump on this? Or was it in fact a Canadian family?

As a Conservative, do you have an opinion about the increase in the U S debt by about 50% over Obamas last year?

Debt going up, interest going up, how the fuck do we handle this? More tax cuts, especially to the rich and corporations?
I'm not Conservative in the sense that's portrayed in your media, or how some southerners or RINOs bastardized our values. I'm anti-religion, but not atheist/agnostic, as I do believe in a creator, just not religion specifically. I assume, Bob, you wouldn't put strangers first over your own family, correct? Though if your family is more or less doing well, then being a humanitarian to those in need/strangers is the way to go if you financially can make it feasible. Now, apply that as a citizen of your country ((family>community>city>province>country>others) as an example). I also believe in legal immigration, that's the way my parents came here. I also believe in less government positions, term limits and stabilized salary for government workers. I won't go through it all, but I feel that's a good start so you get a feel with everything you facetiously wrote.

Pretty much all westernized countries are going through the same thing. This isn't a President Trump thing. Don't quote me on this, but I believe we're taking on A LOT more refugees than you guys are per capita. We're also taking in thousands upon thousands of US citizens claiming "asylum", which is technically illegal due to our treaty, since US is a safe country. I believe refugees receive $1,000 - $3,000 per month (depends on if they have children or not, and how many). They also don't have to get a job till they're a citizen of 5 years. But I did read an article about what you said (one time payment) which I actually believe is false since I know refugee families in my riding they receive monthly government cheques, so I'm assuming they receive money from socialist programs and that "$3,400" is the just the 'start-up' allowance upon placement in our country. Best example is Toronto and Montreal, the government has placed a lot of refugees in actual hotels:

Tensions high after fire set at Toronto hotel housing refugees | TheSpec.com

"The Radisson Hotel in the city's north-east, which is the temporary home to 570-plus so-called irregular migrants from the United States..."

All our country's debts are going up. Also, worldwide, and especially in our overly developed countries, our populations are going way up. No need to explain all the socialist government programs being used, more police and firefighters needed and used, more crime, more infrastructure needed and to be taken care of, etc., etc.

Actually, wanted to touch on this story since I find it relevant. Our newly provincial Premier, Doug Ford, just cut a Canadian citizen off of welfare (I believe) that he's been taking for years. His reason for not getting a job was because he NEEDED to homeschool is daughter because he believed that if she went to school, she would 100% get raped (she's never been raped before, or an attempt.) It's people like that that are also a drain, where you can't raise taxes due to all the people collecting welfare unless you get crafty, so the government goes more in debt.

Debt will continue to climb for all westernized countries if we continue on our path of "which country can be the ultimate humanitarian, but not take care of our citizens". I mean, the US debt was 10 Trillion in 2008 for Obama, and when he left it was what? 20 Trillion? As much as you love Obama, Bob, you can't just blame Bush on that. A lot of domestic and foreign businesses were lost under him. A lot of socialist government programs overused. Though he wasn't dealt a great hand due to Bush being terrible and too much of a softy. Trump is definitely bringing jobs and businesses back domestically, though you will obviously lose a couple - that's just natural. People my age and younger aren't buying motorcycles/choppers generally speaking, so those companies will fail if that's their only product. Muscle cars and cars in general, too, are also on the decline because of my generation and lower, so those companies will dwindle, especially those making inferior products like GM.
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Old 11-30-2018, 02:04 PM
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Nice write up PPM... I'm sure the list could go on and on.

Best line... "which country can be the ultimate humanitarian, but not take care of our citizens".
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Old 11-30-2018, 02:51 PM
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Nice write up PPM... I'm sure the list could go on and on.

Best line... "which country can be the ultimate humanitarian, but not take care of our citizens".
Not Saudi Arabia or Russia
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Old 11-30-2018, 03:22 PM
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Might be cause neither one of them allows them in.
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Russia and Saudi have both allowed in hundreds of thousands of refugees. I think you guys mean Israel and Japan for some of the lowest. But I specifically said westernized countries

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I've been living in southern California a long time.... these battles at the border have now just been publicized they've been going on forever last week was nothing as far as border rushes and tear gas go... the conservative media has grabbed onto this because of trump
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Migrant group demands Trump either let them in or pay them each $50G to turn around: report | Fox News

Thought this was pretty funny. Who do these people think they are making demands like this?

"Two groups of Central American migrants marched to the U.S. Consulate in Tijuana on Tuesday with a list of demands, with one group delivering an ultimatum to the Trump administration: either let them in the U.S. or pay them $50,000 each to go home, a report said.

Among other demands were that deportations be halted and that asylum seekers be processed faster and in greater numbers, the San Diego Union-Tribune reported.

The first group of caravan members, which included about 100 migrants, arrived at the consulate around 11 a.m. Alfonso Guerreo Ulloa, an organizer from Honduras, said the $50,000 figure was chosen as a group."
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Imagine showing up to the border in China, France, Canada, etc., throwing rocks and demanding to be let in.

Think they'd just open up the gates, because you say so?
I thought you were going to write "open up with the machineguns."




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Tyler Q. Houlton on Twitter: "We are happy to provide the facts -- but you never reached out. In fact, DHS prevented 3,755 known or suspected terrorists from traveling to or entering the U.S. in FY 17. That's in addition to 17,526 criminals, 1,019 gang members, and 3,028 special interest aliens. #FactsFirst… https://t.co/3kc8XLaOZT"
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