Deduction of Defensive pts .... BS!!

[Ron Mexico]

They need to have an option for comissioners to not have the defense get pts taken away when the other team has an INT for a TD or a blocked kicked for a TD. The defense had nothing to do with it.

[dhunter]

going by total pts just makes it easier tho

[Ron Mexico]

Originally Posted by dhunter

going by total pts just makes it easier tho

Easier is not the point.

Should a QB get minus pts when a RB fumbles?

Its a computer. Should be able to change it

[Wabash Wonders]

Originally Posted by Ron Mexico

They need to have an option for comissioners to not have the defense get pts taken away when the other team has an INT for a TD or a blocked kicked for a TD. The defense had nothing to do with it.

If you want to get technical, once the ball changes hand on an INT or blocked kick, the offense then becomes the defense and its their job to stop the guy from scoring. And as far as blocked kicks, thats special teams and in most leagues thats the equivalent of the defense...

[SportsBetRob]

Originally Posted by Ron Mexico

They need to have an option for comissioners to not have the defense get pts taken away when the other team has an INT for a TD or a blocked kicked for a TD. The defense had nothing to do with it.

The big problem is where do you draw the line. It's hardly the defense's fault if their QB fumbles on the 1 and they give up a touchdown on the ensuing play. If we make those not count, either...do we draw the line at the redzone? At the 50?

Also, almost every league I've been involved with notates it DST because you're picking a defense/special teams. So blocked kicks should count.

[Ron Mexico]

Originally Posted by SportsBetRob

The big problem is where do you draw the line. It's hardly the defense's fault if their QB fumbles on the 1 and they give up a touchdown on the ensuing play. If we make those not count, either...do we draw the line at the redzone? At the 50?

Also, almost every league I've been involved with notates it DST because you're picking a defense/special teams. So blocked kicks should count.

Ok.. so in leagues where you have Def and ST separate. ST should get the minus points for a blocked fg for td right?

[westcoastO]

in my league the defense doesn't take the hit for points given up by INT return or blocked FG return etc.

[Ron Mexico]

Originally Posted by westcoastO

in my league the defense doesn't take the hit for points given up by INT return or blocked FG return etc.

what site is that?

[westcoastO]

Originally Posted by Ron Mexico

what site is that?

sportsline.com

[westcoastO]

we have it like this, here's the stats for dolphins defense today from the fantasy game 2 guys played in my league today

23 PA, 355 YDS, DFR, 2 SACK, 17 DSTPA, FF

23 points allowed, but only 17 of them attributed to the DST

[Ron Mexico]

Originally Posted by westcoastO

we have it like this, here's the stats for dolphins defense today from the fantasy game 2 guys played in my league today

23 PA, 355 YDS, DFR, 2 SACK, 17 DSTPA, FF

23 points allowed, but only 17 of them attributed to the DST

Thats how it should be.

Thanks WCO

[MCP313]

Hypothetical here but lets say Brady throws a pick on the Jet 20 to Reves and he runs it back to the 40 and then promptly fumbles and Wes Welker picks it up and runs it the other way for the TD.....who do you think gets credit for it? The Patriots defense would.

Same thing can be said for ST points allowed. Once the ball changes sides your side goes automtically on defense...even on a blocked punt or kick. Odd, but thats how it works.

PEACE

[Ron Mexico]

Originally Posted by MtrCtyPimp

Hypothetical here but lets say Brady throws a pick on the Jet 20 to Reves and he runs it back to the 40 and then promptly fumbles and Wes Welker picks it up and runs it the other way for the TD.....who do you think gets credit for it? The Patriots defense would.

Same thing can be said for ST points allowed. Once the ball changes sides your side goes automtically on defense...even on a blocked punt or kick. Odd, but thats how it works.

PEACE

Sorry.... you are wrong about the Welker TD. It has happened and the player gets the TD.

All I'm saying is it should not be that way for fantasy scoring. And WCO's league has it right.

Buffalo's fake FG for a TD went against NO def. Total BS. I did not have them but its wrong.

[be47320]

why should a fake fg for a td not go against the defense?

[spliff]

Originally Posted by westcoastO

in my league the defense doesn't take the hit for points given up by INT return or blocked FG return etc.

i'm 90% sure that my espn league is set up the same way.