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Old 08-22-2009, 02:32 PM
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First draft this year. 12 team league
this is a 12 team keeper league. allowed to keep 3 players after year is over. Let me know what you guys think.

3rd pick overall.

1.(3) Maurice Jones-Drew, Jac
2.(22) Anquan Boldin, Ari
3.(27) Ronnie Brown, Mia
4.(46) Kurt Warner, Ari
5.(51) Chad Ochocinco, Cin
6.(70) Cedric Benson, Cin
7.(75) Chris Cooley, Was
8.(94) Ben Roethlisberger, Pit
9.(99) Josh Morgan, SF
10.(118) Hakeem Nicks, NYG
11.(123) Dustin Keller, NYJ
12.(142) Leon Washington, NYJ
13.(147) James Davis, Cle
14.(166) Kris Brown, Hou
15.(171) Texans D/ST, Hou
16.(190) Correll Buckhalter, Den
17.(195) James Jones, GB
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:49 PM
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QB is shaky, otherwise very nice.
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:53 PM
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QB is shaky, otherwise very nice.

thanks kieth. was waiting for you to comment. i took warner since i got boldin thought i could get some good points with the connection. as far as big ben he is always hurt.
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:55 PM
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why is qb shaky? warner is a top 5 qb
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:57 PM
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thanks kieth. was waiting for you to comment. i took warner since i got boldin thought i could get some good points with the connection. as far as big ben he is always hurt.
Warner concerns me. Post Super Bowl let-down is likely; Haley is gone; he is NOT 100% yet from the hip surgery; and he is injury-prone to begin with. But if he stays healthy, I think you have a VERY nice team. I would consider rostering Leinart however.
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Fogell: Seth, Seth, Seth. Listen up, ass-face: every day, hundreds of kids go into the liquor store with fake IDs, and every single one says they're 21. Pssh, how many 21 year olds do you think there are in this town? It's called f*cking strategy, alright?
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:57 PM
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why is qb shaky? warner is a top 5 qb

see above
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Old 08-22-2009, 03:04 PM
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only concern id have is warner's health

otherwise imo he will play excellent

nobody fits that west coast offense better, he releases the ball so fast

has plenty of weapons and the o line is solid

seems to get better with age
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OK--fair enough. Tell me why. Are the points I raised not legitimate concerns ?

He IS still limping around from the hip surgery. He DID lose his offensive coordinator. Before last season he hadn't played a full season schedule since he was with the Rams.
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OK--fair enough. Tell me why. Are the points I raised not legitimate concerns ?

He IS still limping around from the hip surgery. He DID lose his offensive coordinator. Before last season he hadn't played a full season schedule since he was with the Rams.
he has arguably the best weapons in the league. He may not be 100 percent but he is hardly liping around. Like rome says he gets better with age, has a good line and a wide open offense that fits his style perfectly. Injuries are a crap shoot, look at brady, and i dont think its wise to not draft someone because they "might" get hurt.
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I agree with Be. Not a good strategy to pass on a better player because he might get injured. Warner is worth the risk
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I agree with Be. Not a good strategy to pass on a better player because he might get injured. Warner is worth the risk

It's not as simple as you guys are making it. Of course ANY player "MIGHT" get hurt. But some players are far more injury-prone than others.

Let's look at Warner's numbers since 2002:

2002--played in 7 games (missed 9 games)
2003--played in 2 games (missed 14 games)
2004--played in 10 games (missed 6 games)
2005--played in 10 games (missed 6 games)
2006--played in 7 games (missed 9 games)
2007--played in 14 games (missed 2 games)
2008--played in all 16 games.

In the last 7 seasons, Warner has missed 46 games !! That is almost THREE SEASONS (46 of 48 games) that he has missed due to injury. And now, he is coming off of hip surgery. I think it is naive to think that Warner is NOT an injury waiting to happen.
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Warner owners just need to handcuff leinart and they'll be fine.
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Warner owners just need to handcuff leinart and they'll be fine.

Trossi--I think you are giving too much credit to Leinart. He does NOT impress me at all.
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Fogell: Seth, Seth, Seth. Listen up, ass-face: every day, hundreds of kids go into the liquor store with fake IDs, and every single one says they're 21. Pssh, how many 21 year olds do you think there are in this town? It's called f*cking strategy, alright?
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It's not as simple as you guys are making it. Of course ANY player "MIGHT" get hurt. But some players are far more injury-prone than others.

Let's look at Warner's numbers since 2002:

2002--played in 7 games (missed 9 games)
2003--played in 2 games (missed 14 games)
2004--played in 10 games (missed 6 games)
2005--played in 10 games (missed 6 games)
2006--played in 7 games (missed 9 games)
2007--played in 14 games (missed 2 games)
2008--played in all 16 games.

In the last 7 seasons, Warner has missed 46 games !! That is almost THREE SEASONS (46 of 48 games) that he has missed due to injury. And now, he is coming off of hip surgery. I think it is naive to think that Warner is NOT an injury waiting to happen.
He didn't miss all those games due to injury. 2003, he was replaced after 2nd game due to poor play and Bulger moved in. 2004 he played first 10 games for Giants, then gave way to rookie Eli Manning. So not all of those missed games were because of injuries...
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