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Old 09-18-2009, 06:56 AM
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Garcon or Collie?

So in one of my leagues I have A. Gonzalez who's gonna be out for awhile. Both Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon are available and just curious to see if anyone, maybe in the Indy area, has any insight as to who's gonna get more playing time. I've been fishing around and can't seem to get any definitive answers. I'm leaning towards Garcon but at this point who knows?
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Old 09-18-2009, 06:57 AM
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from what I am reading, Garcon is the choice. But maybe rjb's sister can tell us which one is cuter.
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Old 09-18-2009, 07:17 AM
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I'm on record as saying Colile, With Baskett coming in, it's all speculation at this point

Here's an article I found out there on it

Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon, the immediate beneficiaries of extra targets and playing time in the wake of Anthony Gonzalez's knee injury, are worth taking a chance on.

True, it will be difficult pinpointing which of these young, talented receivers will progress the most and take advantage of his new role in the offense. But both should make big enough strides to warrant roster consideration in deep leagues.

Let's look at the facts:

Gonzalez was the No. 2 receiver in the Colts' pass-happy offense, which meant that these two guys were already fighting for decent action as the third and fourth receivers.

The loss of mini-Gonzo simply means that one of them is, at least for label's sake, the team's new No. 2, while the other is the team's official third receiver.

However, with the chemistry Peyton Manning has with tight end Dallas Clark, we can safely assume we'll still see Clark splitting out and lining up in the slot as he has done much of the past two years.

Regardless, both receivers will see a solid rise in production and targets (Garcon had five on Sunday, while Collie had three).

So what separates them?

Garcon is more suited to play the outside, as he has better speed and overall playmaking ability.

However, Collie was more productive in college, has much better hands, and is a precise route-runner. On that same note, Collie isn't exactly an athletic pushover, either. He isn't leaps and bounds below Garcon when it comes to speed and agility.

Regardless, with Collie's strengths putting him mostly in the slot to start, his value is limited initially, as the Colts are likely to put Clark in there at least 50 percent of the time.

With the long-term view in mind, however, Collie may be the better pick-up. Manning wouldn't mind having a second sure-handed receiver who knows how to get open. And while we may not see it happening immediately, Collie could end up having a very solid stretch up until Gonzalez's return.
There is a strong argument to add both players, as the final answer ultimately comes down to what players are on your roster, the depth of your league, and who else is available in the free agency pool.

Still, despite the likelihood that at least one of these players will see significant improvement starting this Monday night, both players remain available in 98 percent of Yahoo! leagues.

Take the early jump on the Colts receiver of your choosing, but know that one of them will surely be handing out solid fantasy production when the lights go on this coming Monday.
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Thanks for the info Gerk..gonna go with Garcon and see what happens
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Lean Garcon, but gonna be tough until you see them play and who Manning goes to with all the coverage to Wayne
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Old 09-18-2009, 11:47 PM
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collie

but i hope he's not in your starting lineup
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i'd like to grab garcon in my 12 man league, but i already have too many wr. News is that AG could miss 8 weeks now.
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Garcon is supposedly getting the start.
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Seth: Fogell, this ID says that you're 25 years old. Why wouldn't you just put 21, man?
Fogell: Seth, Seth, Seth. Listen up, ass-face: every day, hundreds of kids go into the liquor store with fake IDs, and every single one says they're 21. Pssh, how many 21 year olds do you think there are in this town? It's called f*cking strategy, alright?
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Old 09-22-2009, 07:00 AM
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Garcon is supposedly getting the start.

so, while Collie technically got the start, it was Garcon that was on the field the whole night, and it was Garcon who got the TD (in front of his hometown crowd). Collie didn't do squat.
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Seth: Fogell, this ID says that you're 25 years old. Why wouldn't you just put 21, man?
Fogell: Seth, Seth, Seth. Listen up, ass-face: every day, hundreds of kids go into the liquor store with fake IDs, and every single one says they're 21. Pssh, how many 21 year olds do you think there are in this town? It's called f*cking strategy, alright?
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:26 AM
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Collie 20 catches 228 yards 3 TD's

Garcon 11 catches 216 yards, 2 TD's

Looks lke we don't want to judge after one game

Collie looked great yesterday
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:43 AM
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I posted in another thread after week 1 when AG got hurt that Collie was the one to pick up over Garcon. Since then Garcon had nice numbers in weeks 2 and 3, and Collie has been the man in weeks 4 and 5. I think both will have their share of good games but still think Collie will emerge as the better guy over long run...But keep in mind when AG returns its possible they will both be back to #3 and #4 receivers.
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Current stats

Collie 20 catches 228 yards 3 TD's

Garcon 11 catches 216 yards, 2 TD's

Looks lke we don't want to judge after one game

Collie looked great yesterday

agreed that Collie has played better--as you called it. 2 weeks ago I packaged Garcon with Winslow for Tony G.
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Seth: Gimme that. Alright, you look like a future pedophile in this picture, number 1. Number 2: it doesn't even have a first name, it just says "McLovin"!
Evan: What? One name? ONE NAME!?!? Who are you? Seal?
Seth: Fogell, this ID says that you're 25 years old. Why wouldn't you just put 21, man?
Fogell: Seth, Seth, Seth. Listen up, ass-face: every day, hundreds of kids go into the liquor store with fake IDs, and every single one says they're 21. Pssh, how many 21 year olds do you think there are in this town? It's called f*cking strategy, alright?
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