Need Your Help Again With A Trade

[rm2533]

I've been offered: Braylon Edwards, WR (CLE) for Steven Jackson, RB (STL)


- My Team Roster -


My Running Backs : Frank Gore (SF), Larry Johnson (KC), Ronnie Brown (MIA)

My Wide Receivers : Greg Jennings (GB), Andre Johnson (HOU), Santana Moss (WAS), Brandon Marshall (DEN), Chris Chambers (SD), Vincent Jackson (SD)



League setup is your typical 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 Team Defense




Should I jump on this trade or do I counter with Larry Johnson instead? Do I pass because I already have too much dept at wide receiver or is it vise versa do I have too much dept at running back? Would this move benefit my team in the long run?

[be47320]

thats a loaded team, are their 6 teams in your league or what? i definitley would NOT do that trade with SJ....LJ or gore yes

[rm2533]

Originally Posted by be47320

thats a loaded team, are their 6 teams in your league or what? i definitley would NOT do that trade with SJ....LJ or gore yes

There is 8 teams in my league, I was thinking that this trade might be to my advantage if I trade Steven Jackson away since he has been holding out for a good 20 days or so and who knows when they actually get a deal done in St.Louis.

[rjb1816]

sjax for braylon not even close to equal value...all 3 of your rbs are too high value for him. tell him to add something

[Keith]

Originally Posted by rjb1816

sjax for braylon not even close to equal value...all 3 of your rbs are too high value for him. tell him to add something

A Steven Jackson that is holding out is not worth MORE than a top 5 WR. Who knows how long the holdout will last and, if he returns, studies show he is more likely to get hurt. I agree that I would still try to get him to add something (another lesser RB), and then I would send SJax on his way.

[rjb1816]

lol you actually think that holdout is gonna last? please...just like chad johnsons? oh wait he's in camp. There's no predicting injuries...and yes Sjax even with the holdout and injury stuff is worth WAY more than braylon. Or else why isn't everyone drafting him in the first round? Braylon isnt even a top 5 wr anyways...get real

[Keith]

Originally Posted by rjb1816

lol you actually think that holdout is gonna last? please...just like chad johnsons? oh wait he's in camp. There's no predicting injuries...and yes Sjax even with the holdout and injury stuff is worth WAY more than braylon. Or else why isn't everyone drafting him in the first round? Braylon isnt even a top 5 wr anyways...get real

Braylon is most certainly in the top 5--just after Moss, TO and Wayne.

Jackson's negotiations are going nowhere. Sure he'll sign. Right before week 1. And how many weeks does it take him to get into shape ? You can laugh all you want--under Vermeil the Chiefs did a study which confirmed that guys who holdout are more injury-prone.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by Keith

Jackson's negotiations are going nowhere. Sure he'll sign. Right before week 1. And how many weeks does it take him to get into shape ? You can laugh all you want--under Vermeil the Chiefs did a study which confirmed that guys who holdout are more injury-prone.

"Carl Peterson did a study for the Kansas City Chiefs," Vermeil said. "He's one of the most experienced presidents-general managers in the National Football League.

"He's been there since 1989, and he's done studies as to holdouts. Not only in Kansas City, but all through the league. He says there's a much higher correlation or a chance of getting injured after holding out, regardless of position."

[Keith]

Originally Posted by Keith

"Carl Peterson did a study for the Kansas City Chiefs," Vermeil said. "He's one of the most experienced presidents-general managers in the National Football League.

"He's been there since 1989, and he's done studies as to holdouts. Not only in Kansas City, but all through the league. He says there's a much higher correlation or a chance of getting injured after holding out, regardless of position."

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/rams/story/94F88940A57DC904862574A4000EA581?OpenDocument

[rjb1816]

Originally Posted by Keith

Braylon is most certainly in the top 5--just after Moss, TO and Wayne.

Jackson's negotiations are going nowhere. Sure he'll sign. Right before week 1. And how many weeks does it take him to get into shape ? You can laugh all you want--under Vermeil the Chiefs did a study which confirmed that guys who holdout are more injury-prone.

okay i'll take the wr thing first

wrs i'd take before edwards

Moss
Owens
Wayne
Andre Johnson
Fitzgerald
Housh/Braylon tied

You're counting on a 1 year wonder qb and a wr to have the same production again...thats an awful big assumption to be drafting top 5.


Also, I don't care what vermeil drew up...I'll take his odds of working out by himself and not getting hurt during training camp rather than during the regular season. We'll see what happens but shit if you think they are on equal value I would love to get more guys like you in my league

[Keith]

Originally Posted by rjb1816

okay i'll take the wr thing first

wrs i'd take before edwards

Moss
Owens
Wayne
Andre Johnson
Fitzgerald
Housh/Braylon tied

You're counting on a 1 year wonder qb and a wr to have the same production again...thats an awful big assumption to be drafting top 5.


Also, I don't care what vermeil drew up...I'll take his odds of working out by himself and not getting hurt during training camp rather than during the regular season. We'll see what happens but shit if you think they are on equal value I would love to get more guys like you in my league

I didn't say that. I am trying to think outside of the box here. I know Edwards is not a top 5 draft choice. I did say that if you could get a lesser RB with Edwards, it was worth considering--given the uncertainty of Jackson signing and what condition he might be in when he does sign. You can ignore the studies--again I am trying to be proactive on this. I would not do the deal straight up and never said that I would. But if the guy threw in Forte or someone similar, then I'd strongly consider it.

As for you thinking that injury-prone Andre Johnson and Housh are better than Edwards, well then I wish you were in my league. I will acknowledge Fitzy as belonging in the top 5 (with Edwards).

[rjb1816]

lol andre johnson has had 2 seasons where he's missed games out of 5 career, he has a couple 1000 yard seasons in there, meanwhile braylon has one season where he missed 6 games, another with 600 yards receiving and this last outlying season...i think i'll take the guy who was tearing it up last year before he got hurt and is a lot more consistent

[Keith]

Originally Posted by rjb1816

lol andre johnson has had 2 seasons where he's missed games out of 5 career, he has a couple 1000 yard seasons in there, meanwhile braylon has one season where he missed 6 games, another with 600 yards receiving and this last outlying season...i think i'll take the guy who was tearing it up last year before he got hurt and is a lot more consistent

OK. I believe that most people, if given the choice, would take Edwards over Johnson. Obviously you wouldn't. I got that.

[cuse_man]

I haven't read everything, but kinda agree with rjb with edwards. I don't think you can put him as a top 5 WR right now. I picked him up last year, and stole him in real late rounds, but I am not sure If I would go for him this year as he will probably be overvalued... Like rjb said... 1 year, and thats not even bringing the QB play into the scenario. Edwards is a great receiver... could be top 5 someday just not right now.

[cuse_man]

Originally Posted by Keith

OK. I believe that most people, if given the choice, would take Edwards over Johnson. Obviously you wouldn't. I got that.

just like a lot of people will take AP over LT this year.. right ?