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Old 05-23-2019, 12:13 AM
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You can tell this shit has gotten out of hand when the fucking loser horse guy drags his dumb ass into a thread that has nothing to do with him. Cocksucker couldn't find the football section with a map. Hit the road bitch. Find another forum to peddle your losing horse picks.
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Is cman banned or just taking a break from posting?
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Old 05-23-2019, 05:22 AM
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Hey, posters are owed money and sounds like you mods just donít give a fuck. Itís obvious Jack stole money from them so they have a right to be pissed. As a long time poster here, Iím very disappointed in how you mods have handled this. Someone needs to step up and find out what happened to the money or you mods just arenít doing your job. The site is fucked either way but at least attempt to help these guys get some answers.
They definitely donít give a fuck. Jack obviously can post and some of these people have known Jack for 15+ years as we have heard and no one can get in contact with him? The owner/creator of this site/contests stole money from posters who posted up and mods seem indifferent. Maybe the thread wouldnít be so out of control if a little more effort was being made to get some answers. At least the Gov got the VIP treatment so he doesnít have to worry about it!
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Old 05-23-2019, 06:27 AM
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Is cman banned or just taking a break from posting?
He's not banned but said he has resigned from cm as a mod.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:34 AM
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If y'all really think "The Governor" got paid first and in full... y'all are super gullible, to a point where it makes you look fucking dumb.

Matter of fact - Hey, "The Governor", if you are out there and not taking care of your new " new twins !!!" (what a joke) ...why dont you send a screenshot of your PM'd Saturday picks that you PM'd jack on week 16? that will at least clear up 1 out of the 1000 conspiracies in this thread. Only takes a few seconds to press a couple buttons on the computer to screenshot it, lets see it.

Also, how did jack pay you? Paypal, bitcoin? Lets see those screenshots too. I'd love to see the message he sent to you too...l'm guessing it went something like "Congrats on your first place win, here is your money". Short and sweet, without any issues!

I love the people like Mark12 that sticks up for Dr. Jack, even though the doctor is "surgically" fleecing people out of 10's of thousands of dollars. But hey...he's been good with us for 15 years, so fuck these people that are owed money. You do realize that you are defending a THIEF at this point.

If Mark12 and others were owed the amount of money of the actual people that are owed, I'd be guessing their tone would be just a bit different.

Heart Attack - give me a break. Coincidence that he had a heart attack right after he logged into CM last?

I love how he comes up with these excuses that can't be proved otherwise, like when 5D Tony holds the money and/or is a line of credit when in need - whoops hes dead, WHAT A COINCIDENCE.

The excuses go on and on......The dead ends go on and on....
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Old 05-23-2019, 12:05 PM
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this reminds me of every news story that has come out over the last several years.

someone says something, people draw their own conclusions, opinion pieces get written, facts come out, everyone goes back into hiding.
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Old 05-23-2019, 12:41 PM
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Hey big dogz how much does he owe you? I didn't think they paid that far down. You haven't posted since December now you jump in to bash Jack over something that has nothing to do with you. At least those other guys have a reason to bitch. Even I have a small interest in how this turns out. Maybe you guys that don't have an interest in this can go back into hibernation until next football season.
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Old 05-23-2019, 12:59 PM
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If y'all really think "The Governor" got paid first and in full... y'all are super gullible, to a point where it makes you look fucking dumb.

Matter of fact - Hey, "The Governor", if you are out there and not taking care of your new " new twins !!!" (what a joke) ...why dont you send a screenshot of your PM'd Saturday picks that you PM'd jack on week 16? that will at least clear up 1 out of the 1000 conspiracies in this thread. Only takes a few seconds to press a couple buttons on the computer to screenshot it, lets see it.

Also, how did jack pay you? Paypal, bitcoin? Lets see those screenshots too. I'd love to see the message he sent to you too...l'm guessing it went something like "Congrats on your first place win, here is your money". Short and sweet, without any issues!

I love the people like Mark12 that sticks up for Dr. Jack, even though the doctor is "surgically" fleecing people out of 10's of thousands of dollars. But hey...he's been good with us for 15 years, so fuck these people that are owed money. You do realize that you are defending a THIEF at this point.

If Mark12 and others were owed the amount of money of the actual people that are owed, I'd be guessing their tone would be just a bit different.

Heart Attack - give me a break. Coincidence that he had a heart attack right after he logged into CM last?

I love how he comes up with these excuses that can't be proved otherwise, like when 5D Tony holds the money and/or is a line of credit when in need - whoops hes dead, WHAT A COINCIDENCE.

The excuses go on and on......The dead ends go on and on....
Dude, it sucks these guys haven't been paid and its total BS but this conspiracy theory is hilarious.

Yes they should have posted the plays before Saturday games started but it was a mistake and that shit happens. Governor still was in the lead or close to the lead through 13 weeks with his picks public!!! It would be pretty damn lucky to plant someone in the contest and actually have them be in the lead so they can then fix the final few weeks just based on a couple plays on Saturday. Get real dude.
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Old 05-23-2019, 02:00 PM
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How long does it take to go into Pay Pal, click send money, enter e-mail address, enter amount being sent and then hit the send button and confirm?

Feel for those owed money, this should've been resolved a long time ago.

Good luck.
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Old 05-23-2019, 02:11 PM
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I do a lot of business on PayPal and PayPal “limiting” accounts and holding funds hostage is a very real thing and it’s a huge pain in the ass. It has gotten really bad over the last 2 years, do a google search..there are forums dedicated to it. I’m not saying this did or didn’t happen here as I have no clue one way or the other but PayPal is a pain in the ass and if they think there is something weird with your account(gambling) they will “limit” your account and make you jump through a thousand hoops to get it back open.
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Old 05-23-2019, 02:24 PM
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What BE says about paypal is true. Ive been doing some new business stuff that is payed through ebay and paypal and they are constantly holding my funds. I think the most they say they will hold is 21 days.

It would not be 5 months like these guys have waited though.
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Old 05-23-2019, 02:28 PM
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I don't know the whole story and I am not going read everything but I am assuming that monies are owed from contests and Jack is the one who owes people money. I don't know Jack at all and have never had any interaction with him here on the site.

However, I do know Wayne and have known him thru a previous site - BC - and thru this site. I have been in MANY contests that Wayne has run and there has NEVER been an issue with getting paid.

What troubles me is that because Wayne is a mod here, people are attacking him for someone else's non-payment or not trying hard enough to find out how to get them paid.

I've known Wayne for a long time and I know he is trying to find out what has happened and when people can get paid. I don't believe he is on this site as a mod and not "giving a fuck" that people haven't gotten paid.
I know it bothers him and I know that if he could give people the answers that they seek, he would give them the answers.

I don't feel it is fair to attack the mods for someone else's deal.
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Old 05-23-2019, 02:44 PM
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What BE says about paypal is true. Ive been doing some new business stuff that is payed through ebay and paypal and they are constantly holding my funds. I think the most they say they will hold is 21 days.

It would not be 5 months like these guys have waited though.
They can hold up to 180 days
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Old 05-23-2019, 05:18 PM
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Now the theory is jacks dead and I am secretly running the site, but I do not want to tell people because they will leave. Also I am an ADMIN here so there is no way I do not know more.

I really hope some of these people do not reproduce because you cannot fix stupid. There is 1 ADMIN here and his name is Jack. I have no admin abilities and I am on the same level as the other 13 mods here. I guess since I interact more than most of them and I run many contests for RPs and money I must be an ADMIN?

It is honestly hard to believe how off the rails this has become and I am even more amazed at the stupidity in some people. This has been cut & dry from the start and as simple as it gets. Some guys are owed money from contests in which Jack collected money and he ran. No more no less. We are all looking for answers. The ones who are owed money and others like me who would like to know wtf is going on as well

I am sure there will be many more theories until Jack gets here and pulls me out from under the bus but I must say, some of you out there are really ignorant and Sherlock Holmes you are not
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:04 PM
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Might be time to bother the son. Shits boiling over..
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:46 PM
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People are really fuckin amazing.
Selfish cocksuckers to say the least.

You guys actually have the gall to say/think you would be bigger men in this situation.
Wife has been dying for what? yr and half now?
P fuckin S! during that time span he took the time to make sure I got this very computer Im on.
Now he has a heart attack and you still think he should be concerned with a few bucks owed to some dudes on the web!!!
Like any of you cunts would be concerned about a web page and or the douchebags dissing both the site and the owner.

OH, and the son ?? bother him!! ya right dumbfucks ! He is surely gonna jump through hoops to make sure a bunch of degenerate dipshits get paid when his mom is dying and his dad just knocked on death`s door.

This site and a bunch of blokes I hardly know would be the absolute last of my AND your concerns if in the same circumstances.
Try and tell me different..... HONESTLY!!
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:59 PM
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Which is it T100?

Jack being the most honorable guy in forumville during your 15 years of posting here, or not giving a shit about "a few bucks owed to some dudes on the web?"

Since you aren't owed anything here, maybe you should follow Wayne's directives and gtfo of this thread. You've showed your true colors with that last post.
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Old 05-23-2019, 08:28 PM
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tell me HONESTLY you would make considerations about this site and money while laying in a hospital recovering from a heart attack, as well as having your wife down the hall most likely fighting for her life !

Answer that ! HONESTLY
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Old 05-23-2019, 08:55 PM
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If I was deeply depressed about my wife being ill as Jack has been, I wouldn't have accepted $50-70k of posters contest money last Summer. Especially at my web-based business I worked hard at building trust with posters for 15-20 years. However, if I did accept the money, yes, I would be paying every penny to posters.

It's obvious that I don't believe Jack's heart attack ever happened. I'm also not alone here with not believing it.

However, why are you even mentioning an alleged heart attack from 2 weeks ago, since Jack has owed money for nearly a half year?
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Old 05-23-2019, 09:00 PM
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Answer that ! HONESTLY
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Old 05-23-2019, 09:09 PM
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I see you edited your post, but yes I would have paid the money in January. He began posting about his wife being ill during 2017. The reality is that he probably spent the contest funds, so the Pay Pal, heart attack, and whatever other excuses have been created to slow the amount of criticism and possibly buy some time.

I haven't mentioned this before, but actually he was late paying me contest winnings I was owed last season. Not nearly this long, but 6-8 weeks late. He mentioned his wife being ill then too. So, I really think he already was using contest funds long before his current paying problems spilled over into the main forum for everybody to see here.

He has taken time to private message several posters during his wife's health struggles and other issues, so why not post here and just be honest what happened? The Pay Pal excuse is believable, but the unwillingness to publicly post at HIS OWN FORUM makes the negative accusations appear nearer the truth than anything else.

And again, since others having negative things to say are being told to keep quiet if they aren't owed money, you and others defending Jacks and what increasingly appears to be a sham and aren't owed money, probably should keep quiet.
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Old 05-23-2019, 09:21 PM
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Nothing changes this football season except maybe I will have a winning one. Everything will be up soon as in by the end of the weekend. If anyone has any questions or issues that were not resolved please post in my PM forum where you will get a reply within 24 hours. I am catching up on the dozens and dozens of previous messages and I thank everyone for their patience.
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Old 05-23-2019, 09:22 PM
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Wayne would be outta here if he had anything to do with the funds.

I don't know Wayne so there is no personal connection and I have no dog in this fight so take this with a grain of salt.

If he had anything to do with it, he wouldn't be here trying to keep the site afloat, taking all this heat. I have experience in fraud detection/prevention and Wayne is not exhibiting any of the characteristics of someone with involvement.
From what I can tell, he has been put in a very difficult spot and he is doing what he can to keep the site viable, as long as he possibly can.

It is impossible to say for certain based on the little information we have but with each passing day, the future of the site gets dimmer and it all points back to one person. May be legit and I hope it is but there are too many red flags flying to be very positive. If the owner is as solid as many think, maybe he will come through.

Always possible that owner was sick and a family member or acquaintance had access to the funds. It does happen but it would be nice to know
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