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Old 09-03-2018, 11:24 PM
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he left tonights game tied 1-1, guess who drove in the mets run ? right deGROM! unreal the lack of run support he gets. he will get a no decision tonight game tied 1-1 in the 8th right now.

He has an RBI in 4 of his last 6 starts
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Old 09-03-2018, 11:26 PM
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He has an RBI in 4 of his last 6 starts
that's cuz he knows he has to drive in runs since nobody else does for him.
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Old 09-03-2018, 11:28 PM
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deGrom's ERA in wins is 0.97

His ERA in losses/no-decisions, including tonight's ND ... 1.97
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Old 09-03-2018, 11:41 PM
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btw mets hold on for the win 4-2.
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Old 09-04-2018, 06:10 PM
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CY YOUNG: NL - Jacob deGrom, New York Mets


There has never been a pitcher to win the Cy Young award with fewer than 13 victories, let alone a losing record, so deGrom is about to make history.

If this were 10 years ago, perhaps he would have been discarded by voters with his 8-8 record, but times have changed, and his Bob Gibson-esque 1.68 ERA is too fabulous to ignore. He is the first pitcher since 1913 to yield three or fewer runs in 25 consecutive starts.

If deGrom slips, there is Washington Nationals three-time Cy Young winner Max Scherzer (16-6, 2.28 ERA) with a league-leading 260 strikeouts, and Philadelphia Phillies ace Aaron Nola (15-4, 2.23 ERA), but this is deGrom’s award to lose in his final five starts.



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Old 09-04-2018, 06:24 PM
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deGrpm has been lights out. I would vote for Kluber and deGrom today. We will see if anything changes in September.
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Old 09-05-2018, 06:43 PM
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Updated odds to win NL Cy Young

Jacob deGrom -250
Max Scherzer +250
Aaron Nola +850
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Old 09-05-2018, 10:54 PM
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For me...and without a doubt in the world, the NL Cy Young Award winner goes to none other than: Homer "Beetle" Bailey!

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Old 09-11-2018, 09:30 PM
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deGrom sets MLB single-season record with 26 straight starts allowing 3 runs or fewer
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Old 09-11-2018, 09:33 PM
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deGrom receives a standing ovation from the crowd at Citi Field, and high fives in the dugout as he departs after the top of the 7th

7 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 9 K, 106 pitches

ERA 1.71


AS USUAL Currently on the hook to fall to 8-9
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:09 PM
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1.71 ERA ... 8-9


The qualified starter with the highest ERA in baseball, Lucas Giolito, has a 5.76 ERA ... more than 4 full runs higher than deGrom's ... He's 10-10
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:14 PM
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2.02 ERA in the team's losses he's started this season
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Old 09-13-2018, 06:31 PM
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They just said that Degrom will pitch against the Sox at Fenway on Sunday and will be opposed by Sale
I wonder what the betting line will be and especially so as Sale will be on a pitch count.
I would guess the Sox will be about a 140- to-145 favorite and possibly even more.
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Old 09-13-2018, 06:36 PM
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testing the like button, earlier it said I didnt have access to that???

didnt we used to be able to unlike something if we hit the button by accident

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Old 09-13-2018, 06:43 PM
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They just said that Degrom will pitch against the Sox at Fenway on Sunday and will be opposed by Sale
I wonder what the betting line will be and especially so as Sale will be on a pitch count.
I would guess the Sox will be about a 140- to-145 favorite and possibly even more.
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Guessing -150 to -155
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Old 09-13-2018, 07:36 PM
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Guessing -150 to -155
You are probably right.
After all the game is at Fenway, where Sox rarely lose, and in spite of the great pitcher Degrom is, he has only a 500 record because of the Met's ineptness and inability to support him.
If I wanted to bet the Mets, I would probably play it safe and take the 1 1/2 runs.
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:30 PM
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Thinking about it ...it might be as high as -165
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Old 09-13-2018, 09:39 PM
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Thinking about it ...it might be as high as -165
Imo the fact that Sale will probably pitch only a few innings may hold the line down over what it might ordinarily mean if he wasn't on a pitch count.
Couple that with the fact that unless the Mets should win the first two games of the series and/or were a contender to make the playoffs, the Sox might not get all that fired up for this game on some psychological level considering their first place in the standings with no one on their tail.
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:26 AM
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Imo the fact that Sale will probably pitch only a few innings may hold the line down over what it might ordinarily mean if he wasn't on a pitch count.
Couple that with the fact that unless the Mets should win the first two games of the series and/or were a contender to make the playoffs, the Sox might not get all that fired up for this game on some psychological level considering their first place in the standings with no one on their tail.
Sale was only scheduled to pitch 2 innung / throw 40 pitches and they were -310 vs Toronto
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Old 09-14-2018, 09:05 AM
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Sale was only scheduled to pitch 2 innung / throw 40 pitches and they were -310 vs Toronto
Good point.
Keep in mind though that after last night the Sox team record against the Jays is now 14-4 or 15-4(not sure which is correct), and Borucki even though he pitched a great game a few days ago, ain't exactly regarded the same as Degrom.
I don't believe the Sox played the Mets in New York this season meaning that these games are the only ones they will play.
I wonder if the Sox completely slam the Mets in the first two game and/or the Mets should win both games or one of the games prior to the Sunday matchup if it will make any difference in the line.
To be honest., I thought that the -310 line the other night was out of line also inasmuch as Sale was on a pitch count.
On the other hand, though if the linemaker uses the same kind of thinking in this matchup on Sunday, then yeah the 165 or even perhaps higher is a distinct possibility if in theory the a Bookmaker wants to get some semblance of balanced action.
It will be interesting to see opening line on this game and how/if it changes prior to the start of the game.

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Old 09-14-2018, 09:23 AM
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Hmm-I see for tonight's game Velasquez, a relative nothing on the Sox with a 2-2 record and a 5.66 era is a 150 favorite over Sydergaard and his very fine 11-3 record with a 3.44 era.
Does that give you any kind of clue as to what the line for the Sale Degrom matchup might be?
Personally I am not sure if any inferences can be made or not.
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Old 09-14-2018, 03:07 PM
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Hmm-I see for tonight's game Velasquez, a relative nothing on the Sox with a 2-2 record and a 5.66 era is a 150 favorite over Sydergaard and his very fine 11-3 record with a 3.44 era.
Does that give you any kind of clue as to what the line for the Sale Degrom matchup might be?
Personally I am not sure if any inferences can be made or not.
The site which listed Velasquez's record at 2-2 is incorrect as it is 7-2 and overall era is 3.29.
More importantly he is not starting and has been replaced by some unknown Cuevas dude.
The line has dropped to a mere Red Sox -110.

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Old 09-14-2018, 03:16 PM
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Boston should only be -135 max on Sat all things being equal. Not hitting right now, Mets now are past couple, Sale limited, Degrom on fire. Mets live imo.
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Old 09-14-2018, 04:32 PM
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Boston should only be -135 max on Sat all things being equal. Not hitting right now, Mets now are past couple, Sale limited, Degrom on fire. Mets live imo.
I believe the game is on Sunday, not that it matters.
I would have said -135 is too low but seeing tonight's line which is virtually pickem, you could be right, although barring two lopsided wins by either side in the first two games, I am going to say -145 as my final guess.
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