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Old 09-13-2018, 03:41 PM
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FYI: Mookie is sitting it out tonight...
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FYI: Mookie is sitting it out tonight...
That does it for me. It's fantasy playoff week and he sits out...Trout all the way!!
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Old 09-13-2018, 05:21 PM
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FYI: Mookie is sitting it out tonight...
Imo a wise move on Cora's part-everyone needs a day off once in a while.
A win or a loss at this juncture isn't going to make much difference in the final standings barring the worst collapse of all time. lol

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Old 09-26-2018, 08:22 PM
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Only four players in history have batted at least .333 in a 30/30 season:

Willie Mays 1957
Ellis Burks 1996
Larry Walker 1997
Vladimir Guerrero 2002

Mookie Betts joined the 30/30 club and is hitting .344.
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Old 11-15-2018, 05:49 PM
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Betts wins MVP...Trout 2nd...Ramirez 3rd.

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Old 11-15-2018, 05:53 PM
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Mookie got every 1st place vote but one(imo whoever that person was who voted for Trout over Betts for this year needs to have his head examined and/or is biased).
That said and as I have stated before, imo none of these MVP awards mean squat compared to how the candidate's teams they play for do for the year in question.

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Old 11-15-2018, 06:24 PM
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(imo whoever that person was who voted for Trout over Betts for this year needs to have his head examined and/or is biased).
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Old 11-15-2018, 06:29 PM
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Are legally blind people allowed to vote for this award?
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Old 11-16-2018, 07:55 AM
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:51 AM
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Old 11-25-2018, 06:52 PM
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AL MVP Mookie Betts is the first real challenger to Mike Trout's throne as baseball's best player - CBSSports.com
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Old 11-25-2018, 08:26 PM
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Old 11-25-2018, 11:00 PM
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I know many would disagree, but imo in the eyes of some Trout is automatically considered a better player because of his stature at 6'2" and 230 lbs. as opposed to and in comparison to Mookie Betts, at 5'9" and 175 lbs. and who in general is thought of as too scrawny to be considered the best player in baseball.
In short, in this particular instance, size does matter to some in their evaluation.
There is no doubt in my mind who is the better player now for reasons I have stated previously, and it isn't Trout.

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Old 11-25-2018, 11:37 PM
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Savage, if Mike Trout played for Boston you would go on and on and on that he is the best ballplayer ... Ever.

Deny it all you want.
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Old 11-26-2018, 08:05 AM
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Savage, if Mike Trout played for Boston you would go on and on and on that he is the best ballplayer ... Ever.

Deny it all you want.
How about being the first one to respond to this hypothetical question in the thread I started:

Would You Make This Deal if You Were the GM of the Sox?
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Old 11-26-2018, 12:15 PM
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Old 11-26-2018, 12:36 PM
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I know many would disagree, but imo in the eyes of some Trout is automatically considered a better player because of his stature at 6'2" and 230 lbs. as opposed to and in comparison to Mookie Betts, at 5'9" and 175 lbs. and who in general is thought of as too scrawny to be considered the best player in baseball.
In short, in this particular instance, size does matter to some in their evaluation.
There is no doubt in my mind who is the better player now for reasons I have stated previously, and it isn't Trout.
Savage:

As you know, I love the Angels, which means I love Trout. I'm also a Red Sox fan, which means I also love Betts. (FYI: Dodgers being my all-time favorite team). I like both players but for you not to give Trout his due, is mind-boggling. His stats speak for himself. Betts is destined for greatness, IMO, Trout has achieved that already. We'll see how Betts fares in the next 2-3 years, for now, also IMO, Trout is the better player, regardless of him not having won a World Series...yet...I hope.

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Old 11-26-2018, 01:06 PM
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As you know, I love the Angels, which means I love Trout. I'm also a Red Sox fan, which means I also love Betts. (FYI: Dodgers being my all-time favorite team). I like both players but for you not to give Trout his due, is mind-boggling. His stats speak for himself. Betts is destined for greatness, IMO, Trout has achieved that already. We'll see how Betts fares in the next 2-3 years, for now, also IMO, Trout is the better player, regardless of him not having won a World Series...yet...I hope.

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BLB-I do respect your well thought out opinion as always, but again your definition of better is different than is mine, as I choose to look at the word "better" in a multi dimensional way.
In this case and as stated previously, as a team member rather than just as an individual player, I just don't see the intangibles with Trout( which I have described previously), at least not yet anyways and as defined by how the Angels teams he has played on, to make him a truly great player by my standards.
And imo not all of those Angels teams he has played on have been garbage.
In short up until now other than one brief playoff appearance, his teams for the most part have fallen way short of even making the playoffs.
When/until/if I see Trout and his Angel teams being in the hunt a lot more often than they are currently and have been, I will continue to define him as one of the current greatest players(imo the term "goat" at this juncture is absurd) from the shoulders down, which is nothing to scoff at, but not great yet in the true and all encompassing manner in which I choose to define the term for reasons stated.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:04 PM
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Betts avoids arbitration with record $20M deal

BOSTON -- Mookie Betts and the Red Sox not only avoided arbitration on Friday, but they did so with a one-year, $20 million contract that sets a record for a player in his second season of arbitration-eligibility, a source told MLB.com.

With Friday's 1 p.m. ET deadline looming for MLB teams to exchange contract figures with all arbitration-eligible players, the Red Sox reached agreements with all 10 of their eligible players.

The status of having a record-setting deal is something Betts is clearly worthy of, having won the American League's Most Valuable Player Award in 2018 with a monster season that helped lead Boston to a franchise-record 108 wins, and ultimately a World Series championship.

The development is also a significant one, when you consider the Red Sox and Betts couldn't agree on a contract the previous two offseasons.

Betts made $10.5 million in 2018, but two offseasons ago, the Red Sox wound up renewing the star right fielder's contract for just $950,000.

The highest contract an arbitration-eligible player has ever received is the $23 million deal that Josh Donaldson got a year ago, and it won't surprise anyone if Betts shatters that dollar amount next year.

Betts is eligible for free agency at the end of the 2020 season, but the Red Sox would love to keep their homegrown star long beyond that.
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Old 01-16-2019, 11:02 PM
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Depends what type of Fant. Lg you are in ? This is a a question that has many answers, If i need a single and base runners Mookie looks good. If I need the Long ball and RBI's I love Trout. Overall a healthy Trout out trumps a healthy Betts.
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Old 01-16-2019, 11:20 PM
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The bottom line both of them and there families are winners.Look at those numbers . I would love to have either one on my fant baseball team with the 4 or 5 pick. Luv both of them. Leave them for me to pick.
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:53 PM
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Depends what type of Fant. Lg you are in ? This is a a question that has many answers, If i need a single and base runners Mookie looks good. If I need the Long ball and RBI's I love Trout. Overall a healthy Trout out trumps a healthy Betts.
I disagree-until/if/when Trout can show that in some way he makes the whole(Angels) bigger than the sum of the parts/a legitimate contender through some kind of leadership and/or intangibles, he is a very good player from the shoulders down and that's it, not to say that that is not very important also.
Imo unless the Angels at the very least make the playoffs this season for a change, both he and the Angels would be much better off if he played somewhere else like the Phillies, where he might fit in a lot better because other players on that team might be capable of providing the intangibles which imo he clearly lacks at this juncture, meaning he could just be himself.

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Old 01-17-2019, 04:00 PM
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Savage do you even read the posts you quote? He is talking about fantasy baseball and the team around him doesn't mean shit when it comes to fantasy baseball. Neither does the team winning or anything else. You just repeat the same stuff over and over again no matter what others are talking about?
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Old 01-17-2019, 04:06 PM
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Savage do you even read the posts you quote? He is talking about fantasy baseball and the team around him doesn't mean shit when it comes to fantasy baseball. Neither does the team winning or anything else. You just repeat the same stuff over and over again no matter what others are talking about?
Fantasy/smantasy-it doesn't change/affect my views-I am responding to what op said about the two players under consideration.
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Old 01-17-2019, 04:09 PM
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No you quoted a guy talking about which one was a better pick in fantasy baseball. Stop being a whack job and acting like you didn't. It's right there in quotes and your reply was totally insignificant to the subject at hand.
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